why the hell cant men stay out of women-only spaces?
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Those people hate people who come in and say "not all men." They will say that it's obvious they are not talking about all men. They don't feel like they should make the disclaimer. We have the complaints about "not all men" men here in this very thread.
But what are you going to do? That's just how women are.
That’s just how women are.
I chuckled.
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It’s very often right in the title, AND the description, yet filled with men's comments.
Nope. To be clear, the rules are not in the titles of most posts or the community name.
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"The rules are clearly presented"
WRONG! Posts show up in aggregate lists. You know, like the main page of lemmy instances. Where individual community rules do not appear at all if someone clicks on the post directly. I bet a significant amount of the time, people do not even realize which community they're replying to posts in.
Don't like it? Maybe Lemmy needs a way to either remove communities from standard aggregate lists, or to force a popup of community rules when a post is navigated to for a first time viewer that hasn't even seen the community page. Then I'd totally understand being pissed off at first time rule violators.
Why aren't people checking what community they're about to participate in? That feels like it ought to be standard behaviour
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Why aren't people checking what community they're about to participate in? That feels like it ought to be standard behaviour
It feels that way to you. Not everyone shares your opinion
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the rules are obvious, and trans inclusive.
if it wasnt for the sheer volume of [presumed] idiots who cant seem to follow those rules i wouldnt have posted. the points is the reports and heavy moderation required.
its like digital mansplaining
So you decide to ragepost in a different community that had nothing to do with it? This community is for asking questions, and it's pretty clear you're just phrasing things as a question so you can rage and troll without getting the boot
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im so sick of seeing reports regarding men posting in women-only communities and i cant help but get annoyed with these guys.
the rules are clearly presented. either youre not paying attention or youre just an asshole who purposefully throws their opinion in a place explicitly not wanting it.
what the fuck is wrong with you guys?
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OP is complaining, but doesn't appear to be otherwise showing signs of that, and men being outraged women don't invite them into everything is a real phenomenon I've seen around.
That being said, yes, shittyness is evenly distributed between genders.
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The recent tea app debacle shows you are quite wrong about that.
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"Cite sources of your claim, prove it, and spend ages providing material that I will dismiss as irrelevant!".
The name comes from this comic:
Sparrohawcs explanation is also a pretty good one.
Cite sources of your claim, prove it, and spend ages providing material that I will dismiss as irrelevant!
That just seems like an objection whiners raise when they dislike challenges: they
- find the burden of supporting their argument coherently too taxing or
- don't know how to resolve mutually accepted premises or
- don't like assumptions questioned.
No one needs to answer challenges to their argument or "spend ages providing material".
By that same token, no one else needs to care about a weak, poorly defended argument.It's easy enough to ignore or reciprocate preposterous lines of questioning: seems like a skills issue.
As for "sowing discord", there's a strong philosophical tradition of doing pretty much that (ie, shamelessly, impudently breaking conformity to unchallenged conventions & assumptions) to dispel "false belief, mindlessness, folly, and conceit" in the pursuit of "mental clarity or lucidity".
They were called dogs & would even state "other dogs bite their enemies, I bite my friends to save them".
Such classical philosophers might be called trolls nowadays.Any system that treats them as trolls is broken in my opinion.
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Why aren't people checking what community they're about to participate in? That feels like it ought to be standard behaviour
Because it's unnecessary in almost all cases. So far there is only one community which forbids people to comment based on who they are, but otherwise the rules boil down to standard acceptable behavior according to common sense. It's also a nuisance for users: I am quite sure nobody wants to click several times and be derailed to check rules (on mobile) for every comment they want to write in every post they see on a feed. If this would be expected as standard behavior, I would guess even less interactions will happen.
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OP is complaining, but doesn't appear to be otherwise showing signs of that, and men being outraged women don't invite them into everything is a real phenomenon I've seen around.
That being said, yes, shittyness is evenly distributed between genders.
men being outraged women don't invite them into everything is a real phenomenon I've seen around.
You got an example to share with the class?
Becuase at least around fedi I never seen it but I have seen this same style post on here within last few months.
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your anecdote is cute, but i get reports from the women-only sub daily and it sure as hell isnt only guys not paying attention
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your anecdote is cute, but i get reports from the women-only sub daily and it sure as hell isnt only guys not paying attention
That's a trust me bro?
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dude, believe whatever you want to believe.
the fact men are jerks in the context of this thread is not an unknown and quite well established across the internet.
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Upload a photo which includes your face and genitals, and AI will validate your age and sex!
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dude, believe whatever you want to believe.
the fact men are jerks in the context of this thread is not an unknown and quite well established across the internet.
Again... Show me a comment where somebody is a jerk in this thread.
You make unsubstantiated claims and expect the audience to just accept it? That's not how discourse works, that's an echo chamber.
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Upload a photo which includes your face and genitals, and AI will validate your age and sex!
Your butthole print is the only acceptable ID in 2025
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im so sick of seeing reports regarding men posting in women-only communities and i cant help but get annoyed with these guys.
the rules are clearly presented. either youre not paying attention or youre just an asshole who purposefully throws their opinion in a place explicitly not wanting it.
what the fuck is wrong with you guys?
Look, I'm not about to post comments myself in those places, but happening upon one recently after a previous post like this, I noticed how poorly the rule was displayed.
Each post should have a stickied mod comment at the top stating commenting is for women only. Otherwise it's easy not to notice what community the post is in that you're responding to, especially on mobile.
You can expect people to know the rules of any community before posting, or take the time to look, or whatever, but the only person you're hurting is yourself for having those expectations.
If your community is public, the onus is on you (or rather, the mods of the community) to make it as clear as possible what the rules are, if they exclude people or go beyond "be civil."
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No, I don't catalogue them, lol. You'll have to take/ignore my word for it.
Going "hey, weren't we supposed to be equal" is understandable. Not paying any mind to reasons given why they're not allowed in whatever group and then making it a huge grievance to pursue shows the issue goes beyond philosophy.
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No, I don't catalogue them, lol. You'll have to take/ignore my word for it.
Going "hey, weren't we supposed to be equal" is understandable. Not paying any mind to reasons given why they're not allowed in whatever group and then making it a huge grievance to pursue shows the issue goes beyond philosophy.
It just seems odd we are having this discussion about behavior that nobody can link up on this platform.
I am sure somebody some where did it, no doubt but OP presents it as a current issue worthy of notice and discussion but fails to provide any receipts to support this claim.
If somebody is making a huge grievance on fedi about it. I would like to see the thread.