why the hell cant men stay out of women-only spaces?
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I seriously hope you mean this as a joke.
Not for much longer at this rate, submit ID for verification
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How do you know they're guys?
Who decides who's a woman?They've got a super secret proprietary Testoste-meter
, of course!Totally different from the Teste-tester
and similar knock-offs. Theirs is legit, 100% and totally bonerfide. -
Thank you for doing that - such a simple and kind thing to do!
Is it though? You can't seriously expect every lemmy user to do that for you.
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There's no way to "force" anything, different clients are going to behave however they like. Maybe if you need that level of control the Fediverse isn't the right platform to begin with.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Hey, it's not my desire to have a wholly separate space for a subsection of the community... It's not my fault OP doesn't understand the consequences of public message boards. I'm just suggesting ideas that might get closer to their desired mixed reality.
Obviously if they want to do it correctly, it'd have to be something like a separate women-only instance with approved joins. Then they'd be able to facilitate a space where undesirables cannot post.
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These comments…
what the fuck is wrong with you guys?
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Community rules are community rules, and you can either follow them or get banned from the community. How is ‘women only’ any different?
As for the excuse of visibility: the rule is very often in the title, and the initial post, yet not followed.
As for the excuse of how they can tell: well if they can’t, okay, you evaded detection. But posts very often declare “I’m a guy and this is my take…”
I honestly don’t get it, especially on an internet “refuge” like Lemmy where users should be sensitive to persecution and the importance of safe, moderated discussion spaces.
where users should be sensitive to persecution and the importance of safe, moderated discussion spaces.
Is that why you came to Lemmy? For "safe, moderated discussion"?
I feel like the overwhelming majority of "refugees" were escaping heavy-handed moderation.
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where users should be sensitive to persecution and the importance of safe, moderated discussion spaces.
Is that why you came to Lemmy? For "safe, moderated discussion"?
I feel like the overwhelming majority of "refugees" were escaping heavy-handed moderation.
I came so I wouldn’t be randomly shadowbanned by Reddit because it thinks I’m a spambot, heh.
And because it has human, cozy mods, not the corporate feel of big subs.
I guess I’m saying that I don’t picture people coming here to harass small communities with rules they don’t like, as there was a lot of that on Reddit too.
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Is it though? You can't seriously expect every lemmy user to do that for you.
No, of course I don't expect that. But it's a nice thing when it happens.
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Those people hate people who come in and say "not all men." They will say that it's obvious they are not talking about all men. They don't feel like they should make the disclaimer. We have the complaints about "not all men" men here in this very thread.
But what are you going to do? That's just how women are.
That’s just how women are.
I chuckled.
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It’s very often right in the title, AND the description, yet filled with men's comments.
Nope. To be clear, the rules are not in the titles of most posts or the community name.
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"The rules are clearly presented"
WRONG! Posts show up in aggregate lists. You know, like the main page of lemmy instances. Where individual community rules do not appear at all if someone clicks on the post directly. I bet a significant amount of the time, people do not even realize which community they're replying to posts in.
Don't like it? Maybe Lemmy needs a way to either remove communities from standard aggregate lists, or to force a popup of community rules when a post is navigated to for a first time viewer that hasn't even seen the community page. Then I'd totally understand being pissed off at first time rule violators.
Why aren't people checking what community they're about to participate in? That feels like it ought to be standard behaviour
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Why aren't people checking what community they're about to participate in? That feels like it ought to be standard behaviour
It feels that way to you. Not everyone shares your opinion
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the rules are obvious, and trans inclusive.
if it wasnt for the sheer volume of [presumed] idiots who cant seem to follow those rules i wouldnt have posted. the points is the reports and heavy moderation required.
its like digital mansplaining
So you decide to ragepost in a different community that had nothing to do with it? This community is for asking questions, and it's pretty clear you're just phrasing things as a question so you can rage and troll without getting the boot
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im so sick of seeing reports regarding men posting in women-only communities and i cant help but get annoyed with these guys.
the rules are clearly presented. either youre not paying attention or youre just an asshole who purposefully throws their opinion in a place explicitly not wanting it.
what the fuck is wrong with you guys?
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OP is complaining, but doesn't appear to be otherwise showing signs of that, and men being outraged women don't invite them into everything is a real phenomenon I've seen around.
That being said, yes, shittyness is evenly distributed between genders.
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The recent tea app debacle shows you are quite wrong about that.
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"Cite sources of your claim, prove it, and spend ages providing material that I will dismiss as irrelevant!".
The name comes from this comic:
Sparrohawcs explanation is also a pretty good one.
Cite sources of your claim, prove it, and spend ages providing material that I will dismiss as irrelevant!
That just seems like an objection whiners raise when they dislike challenges: they
- find the burden of supporting their argument coherently too taxing or
- don't know how to resolve mutually accepted premises or
- don't like assumptions questioned.
No one needs to answer challenges to their argument or "spend ages providing material".
By that same token, no one else needs to care about a weak, poorly defended argument.It's easy enough to ignore or reciprocate preposterous lines of questioning: seems like a skills issue.
As for "sowing discord", there's a strong philosophical tradition of doing pretty much that (ie, shamelessly, impudently breaking conformity to unchallenged conventions & assumptions) to dispel "false belief, mindlessness, folly, and conceit" in the pursuit of "mental clarity or lucidity".
They were called dogs & would even state "other dogs bite their enemies, I bite my friends to save them".
Such classical philosophers might be called trolls nowadays.Any system that treats them as trolls is broken in my opinion.
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Why aren't people checking what community they're about to participate in? That feels like it ought to be standard behaviour
Because it's unnecessary in almost all cases. So far there is only one community which forbids people to comment based on who they are, but otherwise the rules boil down to standard acceptable behavior according to common sense. It's also a nuisance for users: I am quite sure nobody wants to click several times and be derailed to check rules (on mobile) for every comment they want to write in every post they see on a feed. If this would be expected as standard behavior, I would guess even less interactions will happen.
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OP is complaining, but doesn't appear to be otherwise showing signs of that, and men being outraged women don't invite them into everything is a real phenomenon I've seen around.
That being said, yes, shittyness is evenly distributed between genders.
men being outraged women don't invite them into everything is a real phenomenon I've seen around.
You got an example to share with the class?
Becuase at least around fedi I never seen it but I have seen this same style post on here within last few months.
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your anecdote is cute, but i get reports from the women-only sub daily and it sure as hell isnt only guys not paying attention
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your anecdote is cute, but i get reports from the women-only sub daily and it sure as hell isnt only guys not paying attention
That's a trust me bro?
