why the hell cant men stay out of women-only spaces?
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I shared my view and left the community. Was something about my comment unclear?
I didn’t see why it was a clear violation of rule 5. I was wondering why you thought it was
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im so sick of seeing reports regarding men posting in women-only communities and i cant help but get annoyed with these guys.
the rules are clearly presented. either youre not paying attention or youre just an asshole who purposefully throws their opinion in a place explicitly not wanting it.
what the fuck is wrong with you guys?
It's not immediately obvious when it appears in your feed, I also don't think people expect to be excluded due to protected characteristics. I know I wouldn't have expected a community to discriminate.
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Man here, there have been several times when I have found a thread talking about men and shitting all over all men and painting with broad strokes, claiming that we are all awful and just looking to use women.
I feel offended at indirectly being included in a group like that, and have joined in discussions in the past to try and explain that we are not all terrible people.
Over time however, I have learned to ignore the hate spewers and just move on.
Personally, if I see a community where the rules are politely explaining the situation, I just block the community out of respect for the xommunity.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yeah I blocked it too, but it probably sucks for new users that are just commenting on posts they see because they are popular
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Sealioning is when someone pretends to be 'just asking questions' in good faith in an attempt to sow discord in a community.
Fuckin' hate that Kareny lickspittle bullshit. 🤌
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OK, I pulled out a computer for you so I could see the rules side by side with my post because my mobile client doesn't allow it.
Rule 1: Be nice and; have fun
Doxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here.
OP came in swinging hot, maybe a little toxic, but there are valid points behind the hot words.
However, OP has shown that they are able to accept other viewpoints from valid arguments (https://lemmy.ca/post/48960508/18080134). So I would argue this is borderline.
I have to say, I have no idea what sealioning is though.
Rule 5: This is not a support community.
It is not a place for ‘how do I?’, type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email [email protected]. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.
This isn't a "How do I". This is an open ended attempt (with some frustration) to try to under why members of the community do certain things.
That's my view anyway. What's yours?
wrote last edited by [email protected]"Cite sources of your claim, prove it, and spend ages providing material that I will dismiss as irrelevant!".
The name comes from this comic:
Sparrohawcs explanation is also a pretty good one.
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I seriously hope you mean this as a joke.
Not for much longer at this rate, submit ID for verification
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How do you know they're guys?
Who decides who's a woman?They've got a super secret proprietary Testoste-meter
, of course!Totally different from the Teste-tester
and similar knock-offs. Theirs is legit, 100% and totally bonerfide. -
Thank you for doing that - such a simple and kind thing to do!
Is it though? You can't seriously expect every lemmy user to do that for you.
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There's no way to "force" anything, different clients are going to behave however they like. Maybe if you need that level of control the Fediverse isn't the right platform to begin with.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Hey, it's not my desire to have a wholly separate space for a subsection of the community... It's not my fault OP doesn't understand the consequences of public message boards. I'm just suggesting ideas that might get closer to their desired mixed reality.
Obviously if they want to do it correctly, it'd have to be something like a separate women-only instance with approved joins. Then they'd be able to facilitate a space where undesirables cannot post.
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These comments…
what the fuck is wrong with you guys?
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Community rules are community rules, and you can either follow them or get banned from the community. How is ‘women only’ any different?
As for the excuse of visibility: the rule is very often in the title, and the initial post, yet not followed.
As for the excuse of how they can tell: well if they can’t, okay, you evaded detection. But posts very often declare “I’m a guy and this is my take…”
I honestly don’t get it, especially on an internet “refuge” like Lemmy where users should be sensitive to persecution and the importance of safe, moderated discussion spaces.
where users should be sensitive to persecution and the importance of safe, moderated discussion spaces.
Is that why you came to Lemmy? For "safe, moderated discussion"?
I feel like the overwhelming majority of "refugees" were escaping heavy-handed moderation.
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where users should be sensitive to persecution and the importance of safe, moderated discussion spaces.
Is that why you came to Lemmy? For "safe, moderated discussion"?
I feel like the overwhelming majority of "refugees" were escaping heavy-handed moderation.
I came so I wouldn’t be randomly shadowbanned by Reddit because it thinks I’m a spambot, heh.
And because it has human, cozy mods, not the corporate feel of big subs.
I guess I’m saying that I don’t picture people coming here to harass small communities with rules they don’t like, as there was a lot of that on Reddit too.
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Is it though? You can't seriously expect every lemmy user to do that for you.
No, of course I don't expect that. But it's a nice thing when it happens.
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Those people hate people who come in and say "not all men." They will say that it's obvious they are not talking about all men. They don't feel like they should make the disclaimer. We have the complaints about "not all men" men here in this very thread.
But what are you going to do? That's just how women are.
That’s just how women are.
I chuckled.
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It’s very often right in the title, AND the description, yet filled with men's comments.
Nope. To be clear, the rules are not in the titles of most posts or the community name.
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"The rules are clearly presented"
WRONG! Posts show up in aggregate lists. You know, like the main page of lemmy instances. Where individual community rules do not appear at all if someone clicks on the post directly. I bet a significant amount of the time, people do not even realize which community they're replying to posts in.
Don't like it? Maybe Lemmy needs a way to either remove communities from standard aggregate lists, or to force a popup of community rules when a post is navigated to for a first time viewer that hasn't even seen the community page. Then I'd totally understand being pissed off at first time rule violators.
Why aren't people checking what community they're about to participate in? That feels like it ought to be standard behaviour
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Why aren't people checking what community they're about to participate in? That feels like it ought to be standard behaviour
It feels that way to you. Not everyone shares your opinion
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the rules are obvious, and trans inclusive.
if it wasnt for the sheer volume of [presumed] idiots who cant seem to follow those rules i wouldnt have posted. the points is the reports and heavy moderation required.
its like digital mansplaining
So you decide to ragepost in a different community that had nothing to do with it? This community is for asking questions, and it's pretty clear you're just phrasing things as a question so you can rage and troll without getting the boot
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im so sick of seeing reports regarding men posting in women-only communities and i cant help but get annoyed with these guys.
the rules are clearly presented. either youre not paying attention or youre just an asshole who purposefully throws their opinion in a place explicitly not wanting it.
what the fuck is wrong with you guys?
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OP is complaining, but doesn't appear to be otherwise showing signs of that, and men being outraged women don't invite them into everything is a real phenomenon I've seen around.
That being said, yes, shittyness is evenly distributed between genders.
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The recent tea app debacle shows you are quite wrong about that.
