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does lemmy discriminate community against instances?

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  • J [email protected]

    genocide by which side

    cowbee@lemmy.mlC This user is from outside of this forum
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    Lemmy.world has moderators that will remove your comments or ban you for talking about how the Democrats contribute to the genocide of Palestinians.

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    • emberleaf@lemmy.mlE [email protected]

      .ml is considered 'Tankie'?? First I've heard of this, and I've yet to see anything that would give any kind of credence to that claim. How weird...

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      While lemmy.ml isn't explicitly tankie like lemmygrad.ml or hexbear.chat, the fact that it's the instance run by the two OG Lemmy devs (who, along with most of the instance's admins, are Marxist Leninists) means you tend to get tankie friendly moderation. Most infamously, sinophobia is cracked down on, so shitlibs can't just go hog wild with stuff like Tinyman Square and "West Taiwan" and such.

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      • comfy@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

        On the other hand, some have explicit ideological positions or themes (e.g. lemmygrad.ml, slrpnk.net) and others are shaped by moderation (.ml taking a hard stance against the sinophobia normal in mainatream media, .world and a few other instances/staff banning comments making light of violence e.g. luigi)

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        #68

        This accelerates that process, for sure! I am more talking about how long-term, users tend to form more similar views. If you join an instance and another better fits your views, users tend to jump ship.

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        • S [email protected]

          What is the stereotype about dbzero? Out of the loop on that.

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          #69

          Usually techie and anarchist-adjacent, pro-piracy as well, generally anti-Marxist but usually more focused on being anti-Capitalist.

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          • missinginteger@lemm.eeM [email protected]

            Where did you get the impression that Lemm.ee is (more) right-leaning?
            Lemm.ee does not really have a leaning (in the fediverse).

            Lemm.ee has awesome uptime, hands of moderation, up to date Lemmy, and doesn't defedarate (we live in the glorious age of Lemmy 19 and not in the dark ages anymore; the user can block stuff).

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            #70

            It may be due to the “conservative” comm on the instance. I’m still learning, of course.

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            • cowbee@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

              It's also an imperfect view, as @[email protected] said Cuba now has some of the best LGBT rights in the world. Social progress is very commonly accelerated in AES countries compared to Capitalist countries because society is oriented in a more cooperative manner. We can see this happen in real time in China, where the youth are far more socially progressive and perspective on LGBT issues is stratified more by generation than anything else. There's a long way to go, but progress is happening.

              I do wonder what you mean by you aligning leftist/anarchist "to your knowledge," haha.

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              I’ll have to do more reading then; thank you for sharing as well. It’s awesome to learn that Cuba’s gotten more progressive on LGBTQ issues. I wonder if the user I responded to is from the US since it’s been pretty bad here and we don’t have an established left party, so our “left” is a right wing donor class that pretends to maintain the status quo about 85% of the time.

              I say to my knowledge since while I do identify as anarchist and believe healthcare, food, and shelter are bare minimum rights I understand as a human I always have more to learn and will never possess the breadth/depth of the entirety of anarchist/leftist ideology. I may currently hold blind spots and as such will need to learn and adjust in the future.

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                I’ll have to do more reading then; thank you for sharing as well. It’s awesome to learn that Cuba’s gotten more progressive on LGBTQ issues. I wonder if the user I responded to is from the US since it’s been pretty bad here and we don’t have an established left party, so our “left” is a right wing donor class that pretends to maintain the status quo about 85% of the time.

                I say to my knowledge since while I do identify as anarchist and believe healthcare, food, and shelter are bare minimum rights I understand as a human I always have more to learn and will never possess the breadth/depth of the entirety of anarchist/leftist ideology. I may currently hold blind spots and as such will need to learn and adjust in the future.

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                #72

                Yep, Cuba's journey with respect to social development is very admirable, their most recent Family Code is more LGBTQ friendly than the US. The PRC has further to go, but the CPC itself is more LGBTQ neutral, so there's good reason to believe the improving trends over time as generations change will improve legislation.

                As for Anarchism/Leftism, I think that's more than sufficient to consider yourself one full-stop, no "to my knowledge" needed. I myself have a long way to go as a Marxist-Leninist, but reading theory has been tremendously clarifying for me and my journey. I know you consider yourself an Anarchist, but if you want recommendations on Marxism-Leninism I made an intro reading list (linked on my profile). I think it's generally useful for Leftists of all stripes to engage with the ideas of other predominant Leftist ideologies.

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                • cowbee@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                  Yep, Cuba's journey with respect to social development is very admirable, their most recent Family Code is more LGBTQ friendly than the US. The PRC has further to go, but the CPC itself is more LGBTQ neutral, so there's good reason to believe the improving trends over time as generations change will improve legislation.

                  As for Anarchism/Leftism, I think that's more than sufficient to consider yourself one full-stop, no "to my knowledge" needed. I myself have a long way to go as a Marxist-Leninist, but reading theory has been tremendously clarifying for me and my journey. I know you consider yourself an Anarchist, but if you want recommendations on Marxism-Leninism I made an intro reading list (linked on my profile). I think it's generally useful for Leftists of all stripes to engage with the ideas of other predominant Leftist ideologies.

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                  Hope and action go hand and hand, and it sounds like younger generations in those countries understand that well.

                  That’s a valid point; the literal definition of anarchy itself is the absence/abolition of hierarchies so that is pretty easily covered in identification. I’ll check it out, thank you! I’m a firm believer in leftist unity as we have the common overarching goal of equitable rights and QoL for all people.

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                    Hope and action go hand and hand, and it sounds like younger generations in those countries understand that well.

                    That’s a valid point; the literal definition of anarchy itself is the absence/abolition of hierarchies so that is pretty easily covered in identification. I’ll check it out, thank you! I’m a firm believer in leftist unity as we have the common overarching goal of equitable rights and QoL for all people.

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                    #74

                    Yep, agreed! Even if the means and ends are different between Marxism and Anarchism, the fundamental obstacle is still Imperialism and Capitalism, and the goal is still focused on the people, not those with Capital.

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                    • B [email protected]

                      It may be due to the “conservative” comm on the instance. I’m still learning, of course.

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                      #75

                      Both c/conservative on Lemm.ee and Lemmy.world are currently unmoderated (no community moderators).
                      The one community moderator on .ee got banned for some Nazi shit.
                      Now in both communities there is lots of love for trans people🏳️‍⚧️

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                      • X [email protected]

                        Yeah, some people really fucking hate .ml folks, and I've even heard people shit talk sh.itjust.works.

                        Also, hexbear was a thing.

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                        #76

                        They just hate we're right all the time.

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                        • teagrrl@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                          They just hate we're right all the time.

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                          #77

                          They hate us cuz they aint us 🤷

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                          • cowbee@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                            Hexbear still is a thing, not sure what you're referring to.

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                            #78

                            Hexbear.net doesn't seem to exist anymore?

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                            • agnomeunknown@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

                              They're defederated on .world and probably some other lib instances. I moved to ml because I didn't like the vibe on world, especially their rabid obsession with "tankies"

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                              Hexbear.net doesn't seem to be registered anymore

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                              • cowbee@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                                Yea but that was always the case.

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                                Apparently as another poster pointed out hexbear.net isn't there, or rather it redirects to chapo.chat when I checked it just now. No idea why they'd think that means it's dead though. I was just pointing out the defederation as a possible source of their confusion.

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                                • R [email protected]

                                  Hexbear.net doesn't seem to be registered anymore

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                                  It redirects to chapo.chat for me but still has banners and posts that call it hexbear

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                                  • R [email protected]

                                    Hexbear.net doesn't seem to exist anymore?

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                                    It redirects to chapo.chat, there are some domain shenanigans going on but the people are still there and actively posting.

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                                    • cowbee@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                                      Usually techie and anarchist-adjacent, pro-piracy as well, generally anti-Marxist but usually more focused on being anti-Capitalist.

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                                      #83

                                      Anti Marxist but also anti Capitalist? How does that even work?

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                                        Anti Marxist but also anti Capitalist? How does that even work?

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                                        #84

                                        Anarchism is a strain of anti-capitalist thinking that normally rejects some or most of Marxism, dbzer0 tends to more often fall into the category of rejecting Marxism and being hostile towards AES, from interactions I have had. I am not going to say it's a rule, just what I encounter most frequently.

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                                        • S [email protected]

                                          Does the instance a user is on (visible after their username) affect how they are perceived, either positively or negatively, by you or others?

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                                          #85

                                          I think some people are too quick to judge a whole instance based on a few interactions.

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