Jellyfin is not just good... but *better* than Plex now?!
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Neat, I just figured Roku clients were just going to get just enough attention to work.
I run everything parallel and have the same shares. Unless I set up the video, the wife and kids always go back to Plex.
I get it, But at the same time, Samsung is trying to sell what I'm watching, plex is trying to sell what I'm watching, roku is trying to sell what I'm watching. I just want to watch some damn videos without being someone else's payday.
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I've been using jellyfin for like 7-9 years and have never had that happen lol.
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Absolutely. They are not going to share metadata or things like played status, but I have been using both simultaneously since almost the first day I spun up my media server.
I definitely prefer Jellyfin overall, but Plex is more convenient for sharing with less techy family so I keep it spun up. Jellyfin also requires some finicky network configuration (so I have heard) to cast media to a Chromecast, so Plex wins out there.
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I love jellyfin! I've been using it for a few years and it has definitely gotten better. Every once in a while, it will incorrectly detect a show and I'll have to manually add it. Usually on obscure or older shows and movies.
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Not OP, but I can answer part of your questions:
if I migrate to Jellyfin do I need to fuck around with my folder structures ? No special case just /movie/title | tv/title in my use-case with the usual arr stack for grabbing.
I have Plex and Jellyfin running off the exact same media library no problem at all. So there should be zero need to modify anything--if anything Jellyfin seems a little better at catching "extras" folders than Plex.
I don’t need remote playback for movies/tvs but I have no idea how to replace Plexamp and if you have suggestions, feel free to mention it.
The Jellyfin app plays music--but it's definitely NOT a music app. I always hear Symfonium highly recommended, but have not yet given it a whirl myself.
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Android is inside my TV, nothing external
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This thread is fucking blowing me away. It's half people who realize that Plex is hot goddamn garbage, and the other half that are sucking its pp so hard it's about to fall off.
Absolutely mindblowing to me that anyone would defend Plex and their proprietary garbage as "good."
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I just want to watch some damn videos without being someone else’s payday.
Amen!
Neat, I just figured Roku clients were just going to get just enough attention to work.
Nope. We have a team dedicated to working on the Roku client. They're constantly working on not only bug fixes, but also improvements and new functionality.
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Also the Android TV app is AWESOME!
I dunno....
There's a transcoding bug in the Android TV version of the Jellyfin client where transcoding a video with 7.1 audio breaks playback. Even with a Pull Request out there that fixes it (by matching the behavior of other Jellyfin clients), the issue got closed as "not planned". The continued suggestion continues to be "just force everything to play in stereo".
I don't have unlimited bandwidth, so plenty of my stuff gets transcoded in Plex. I can't, in good, conscience, switch my friends & family (most of who use Android TV) over to Jellyfin.
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Subtitles are the biggest non-issue it's crazy... Some devices don't support internal subs, so you just extract them for your entire library using ffmpeg;
pushd "\\nas\Media\Movies\" fd -e mkv | each {|x| ffmpeg -i $x -map 0:s:0 $x.srt }Once it's done, it's done forever for the files you have. As you add them, just run it again.
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Depends on how old. I don't recommend using vastly underpowered hardware to stream media content.
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I have a huge issue with this post.
You can get things like intro detection and subtitle downloading to work with plugins, but you have to work at it.
You install the plugin and run the routine. There's literally nothing to setup...
Hardware acceleration still kind of sucks.
What are you even talking about? Hardware acceleration has worked absolutely flawlessly in Jellyfin since I've set it up. HEVC encoding is particularly great, and required nothing but a single click to enable it. Jellyfin re-encodes my videos using my GPU into HEVC without issues.
The variety in app experience is bewildering sometimes. Apps look and feel very different between platforms.
This is the only real valid criticism, but it's not even an issue. It's by design. Plex designs a single app and stretches it so it's the same on every platform which may sound great, but it's not... It's only to save them development time. Jellyfin has an android app for phones, and android app for tablets, and an android app for televisions each of which play to the strengths of the different platforms... That's not a bad thing, that's a good thing.
Android TV app support sucks.
This is the fault of the television manufacturers, not the android app. This isn't even valid criticism against Jellyfin.
The app is difficult to navigate and has a bunch of weird edges, like subtitle defaults not working.
- You can change the theme in any way you want. You can even download CSS directly from the web and change the TV app presentation in just about any way you want...
- The subtitle feature, again, is a limitation of the devices that display jellyfin, not a limitation of jellyfin. It's also easy to get around by extracting the subtitles.
Public network support is finicky. This is hard to quantify, but I’ve been on several remote networks where my Jellyfin connection dropped in and out and Plex did not.
Yet another example of you blaming network devices on Jellyfin... My Synology NAS sleeps if it's not used for 5 minutes--so if your buffer to jellyfin caches more than 5 minutes of media, then yeah, you're going to have issues with buffering because you'll run through your 5 minutes of media, and have to wake up the NAS to get more cache. This is again, not a jellyfin issue, it's a configuration issue.
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I tried Jellyfin out on my most recent build - don't think it's quite as good as Plex so far. Still using it though - I think either is perfectly fine for a simple home media server.
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I think that is incorrect in my case. Plex did not come preinstalled on my TV – I installed it via the LG app store on the TV itself. Same with Jellyfin. I have both, and they both update when there are updates available. I have the latest versions.
My TV supports direct play, both in Jellyfin and Plex, so I am streaming 4K HDR with Dolby 7.1 over WiFi 6 without any buffering issues ever. Streaming is not the issue. The navigation lag and startup time for Plex only is the issue.
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Ahhh, good call-out I forget I have that since I bought it so long ago. Much appreciated
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Yeah, I have 31 remote users (though less then 10 are actually active). If you're running to the point of supporting that, the plex lifetime pass is just a piss in the wind.
But the lemmy FOSS crowd is strong, we're severely outnumbered here
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So uh, what’s your favorite way to enable secure remote access?
It needs to be something that people can use with smart TV apps.
I looked at some of the instructions out there, but my head is killing me so I’m not in a “figure out computer thing” mood. Otherwise I’d be at work, lol.
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just not so easy to setup or comparability for my shared users.
Yeah, the biggest reason I use Plex is because of the wife/mother-in-law factor. Basically, how easy is it to get the people around you to use it? If it’s more difficult to use than Netflix or Hulu, many will immediately throw up their hands in learned helplessness, claim it’s too confusing, and refuse to try any more. Plex is the only self-hosting option that actually provides an elegant user setup experience. With Plex, adding a new user is as simple as having them make an account and then sending them the server invite.
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It’s because they don’t have PlexPass. I tend to forget that the restriction even exists, because I bought my lifetime pass like a decade ago.
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You can look at some of my other comments for more specifics, but from your language alone I don't think you're being objective here. OP states that Plex is flatly better than Jellyfin, and a bunch of Lemmy users hype it up because of a clear bias for FOSS. A reality check is a good thing, IMO; you can prefer a solution and acknowledge its faults, but people talking on the Internet tend towards extremes instead and that will disillusion anyone who tries Jellyfin expecting all the good parts of Plex but better.
I prefer FOSS everywhere it's reasonable, but I think a reality check is healthy here. Jellyfin is full of jank that you may run into because a bunch of independent devs are all doing their own thing to make it. Plex is a for-profit entity pulling in the same direction, so the experience is generally going to be more seamless and supported.
I run both Plex and Jellyfin simultaneously. I use Jellyfin on my devices, except on Android TV because the app is painful to navigate. Plex is way better for sharing, but I usually offer both. I've yet to have anyone prefer Jellyfin, Plex tends to just work on their platforms of choice so they go with it. Unless they're a technical person, it's unreasonable to expect them to muddle through the edges of Jellyfin.
