Jellyfin is not just good... but *better* than Plex now?!
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For Plex or jelifin. Either way you can install ready made distro like Truenas, unraided, Hexos(it has an easier interface for Truenas but got no idea how usable it is) or use a Linux distro like Debian and install docker then jelifin/plex. There are a lot of guides if you just search.
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I agree mostly. I just see way more ignorant takes left and right on Lemmy. Yours is actually a better way of stating things. I’m also in the actively shitted on iOS side of things as well. Between plexamp and infuse… it’s highly polished for me.
My advice is always if you’re just now starting to definitely go to jellyfin. I bought lifetime plex pass maybe 16 or so years ago. One day I’ll probably give jellyfin a try.
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Right on! Thanks for posting these.Several of these have never been brought up to the devs, so this is the first time seeing anyone ask for them.
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Well for better or worse, I am off sick from work today so I just set up the server!
That was fast.
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I've noticed it definitely varies depending on how you access it. The web version is flawless as long as the software has the resources it needs to run (my server is slightly very over-provisioned and gets crazy IO delay pretty frequently from running too much on too little).
The official Android and IOS apps are pretty good but do glitch and hitch from time to time, but apps on other platforms are less perfect. Also the third party Streamyfin and Swiftfin apps both seem to work a bit better than the official one but have their own quirks to be aware of.
The Roku app only just got consistently usable around 3-6 months ago, and still prefers to crash without displaying an error when fed media it can't direct play, and for some reason some user profiles just don't work on it. I don't have anything else to try other apps on but that's my experience so far
I haven't really used Plex so I don't know how clean of an experience it provides, but Jellyfin is very usable and honestly at this point most of the problems I have are specific to my media or my setup and not so much problems with the software itself
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So weird, I guess I have it on my phone with webui
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Neat, I just figured Roku clients were just going to get just enough attention to work.
I run everything parallel and have the same shares. Unless I set up the video, the wife and kids always go back to Plex.
I get it, But at the same time, Samsung is trying to sell what I'm watching, plex is trying to sell what I'm watching, roku is trying to sell what I'm watching. I just want to watch some damn videos without being someone else's payday.
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I've been using jellyfin for like 7-9 years and have never had that happen lol.
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Absolutely. They are not going to share metadata or things like played status, but I have been using both simultaneously since almost the first day I spun up my media server.
I definitely prefer Jellyfin overall, but Plex is more convenient for sharing with less techy family so I keep it spun up. Jellyfin also requires some finicky network configuration (so I have heard) to cast media to a Chromecast, so Plex wins out there.
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I love jellyfin! I've been using it for a few years and it has definitely gotten better. Every once in a while, it will incorrectly detect a show and I'll have to manually add it. Usually on obscure or older shows and movies.
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Not OP, but I can answer part of your questions:
if I migrate to Jellyfin do I need to fuck around with my folder structures ? No special case just /movie/title | tv/title in my use-case with the usual arr stack for grabbing.
I have Plex and Jellyfin running off the exact same media library no problem at all. So there should be zero need to modify anything--if anything Jellyfin seems a little better at catching "extras" folders than Plex.
I don’t need remote playback for movies/tvs but I have no idea how to replace Plexamp and if you have suggestions, feel free to mention it.
The Jellyfin app plays music--but it's definitely NOT a music app. I always hear Symfonium highly recommended, but have not yet given it a whirl myself.
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Android is inside my TV, nothing external
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This thread is fucking blowing me away. It's half people who realize that Plex is hot goddamn garbage, and the other half that are sucking its pp so hard it's about to fall off.
Absolutely mindblowing to me that anyone would defend Plex and their proprietary garbage as "good."
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I just want to watch some damn videos without being someone else’s payday.
Amen!
Neat, I just figured Roku clients were just going to get just enough attention to work.
Nope. We have a team dedicated to working on the Roku client. They're constantly working on not only bug fixes, but also improvements and new functionality.
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Also the Android TV app is AWESOME!
I dunno....
There's a transcoding bug in the Android TV version of the Jellyfin client where transcoding a video with 7.1 audio breaks playback. Even with a Pull Request out there that fixes it (by matching the behavior of other Jellyfin clients), the issue got closed as "not planned". The continued suggestion continues to be "just force everything to play in stereo".
I don't have unlimited bandwidth, so plenty of my stuff gets transcoded in Plex. I can't, in good, conscience, switch my friends & family (most of who use Android TV) over to Jellyfin.
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Subtitles are the biggest non-issue it's crazy... Some devices don't support internal subs, so you just extract them for your entire library using ffmpeg;
pushd "\\nas\Media\Movies\" fd -e mkv | each {|x| ffmpeg -i $x -map 0:s:0 $x.srt }Once it's done, it's done forever for the files you have. As you add them, just run it again.
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Depends on how old. I don't recommend using vastly underpowered hardware to stream media content.
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I have a huge issue with this post.
You can get things like intro detection and subtitle downloading to work with plugins, but you have to work at it.
You install the plugin and run the routine. There's literally nothing to setup...
Hardware acceleration still kind of sucks.
What are you even talking about? Hardware acceleration has worked absolutely flawlessly in Jellyfin since I've set it up. HEVC encoding is particularly great, and required nothing but a single click to enable it. Jellyfin re-encodes my videos using my GPU into HEVC without issues.
The variety in app experience is bewildering sometimes. Apps look and feel very different between platforms.
This is the only real valid criticism, but it's not even an issue. It's by design. Plex designs a single app and stretches it so it's the same on every platform which may sound great, but it's not... It's only to save them development time. Jellyfin has an android app for phones, and android app for tablets, and an android app for televisions each of which play to the strengths of the different platforms... That's not a bad thing, that's a good thing.
Android TV app support sucks.
This is the fault of the television manufacturers, not the android app. This isn't even valid criticism against Jellyfin.
The app is difficult to navigate and has a bunch of weird edges, like subtitle defaults not working.
- You can change the theme in any way you want. You can even download CSS directly from the web and change the TV app presentation in just about any way you want...
- The subtitle feature, again, is a limitation of the devices that display jellyfin, not a limitation of jellyfin. It's also easy to get around by extracting the subtitles.
Public network support is finicky. This is hard to quantify, but I’ve been on several remote networks where my Jellyfin connection dropped in and out and Plex did not.
Yet another example of you blaming network devices on Jellyfin... My Synology NAS sleeps if it's not used for 5 minutes--so if your buffer to jellyfin caches more than 5 minutes of media, then yeah, you're going to have issues with buffering because you'll run through your 5 minutes of media, and have to wake up the NAS to get more cache. This is again, not a jellyfin issue, it's a configuration issue.
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I tried Jellyfin out on my most recent build - don't think it's quite as good as Plex so far. Still using it though - I think either is perfectly fine for a simple home media server.
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I think that is incorrect in my case. Plex did not come preinstalled on my TV – I installed it via the LG app store on the TV itself. Same with Jellyfin. I have both, and they both update when there are updates available. I have the latest versions.
My TV supports direct play, both in Jellyfin and Plex, so I am streaming 4K HDR with Dolby 7.1 over WiFi 6 without any buffering issues ever. Streaming is not the issue. The navigation lag and startup time for Plex only is the issue.
