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John Oliver promoted alternatives to big tech in last night's episode, including Mastodon and Pixelfed

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  • H [email protected]

    Wait how is Squid this popular? πŸ˜‚

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    I'd say it is more notoriety than popularity.

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      Come to Lemmy, we got: blood thirsty Linux users, furries, femboys, communists, and tankies. Also, porn.

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      And knives.

      And beans.

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      • D [email protected]

        How much do you need!?????!

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        What exactly does a DragonTypeWyvern tail look like?

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        • R [email protected]

          Yeah, you can get away with really cheap operations up until you start blowing through your cdn and communication budget

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          I'm not too worried about it.

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          • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

            If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

            Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them πŸ™‚

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            I say give it three years and blue sky will just be a neolib twitter

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            • P [email protected]

              The Internet was never supposed to have a central authority beyond the DNS tables.

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              Imagine traveling down a liminal space of tubes and the only signs are nondescript TLDs.

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                Be the change you want to see

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                Ain't nobody wanna see that.

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                • F [email protected]

                  Oh in practice it works quite well for me, basically all my friends and family use Signal now. You can slightly push them towards that, explain the obvious pros, it's simple to install, so it's just a small matter of convincing. I only rarely use WhatsApp for some external groups.

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                  Whatsapp isn't really a thing in my area but man is Facebook messenger is, but yeah nice that you were able, I didn't have much luck with my relatives to switch over to signal or Discord back when it took off, they just sort of stayed on Facebook.

                  My online friend group had a higher adoption rate for discord from skype at first but, that might just be because I refused to give them my phone number so they couldn't access me elsewhere.

                  Really the only group that I had really have an interest in other alternatives, was my cybersecurity class in college, but even they tended to straight towards Discord more than signal (which is insane to me)

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                  • ikidd@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                    Ain't nobody wanna see that.

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                    #178

                    Only you

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                      Have you heard of bridgy?

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                      IMO bridgy is not well designed. The fact that it requires both the follower and the followee to specifically opt in basically makes it DOA. Both Mastodon and BlueSky are completely open and public in terms of post visibility, so bridgy should have been designed to require explicit opt outs from anyone who didn't want their content bridged.

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                      • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                        If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

                        Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them πŸ™‚

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                        I feel like the DNC are being pushed into a blindspot for the general public.

                        All Bernie has done is go around to speak at different events, and he is far from the only politician to do so.

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                          Come to Lemmy, we got: blood thirsty Linux users, furries, femboys, communists, and tankies. Also, porn.

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                          Well, reddit has nothing at this point, so it's better than the competition.

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                          • B [email protected]

                            Do you really think Lemmy could handle the amount of people that Reddit has?

                            As far as I know the existing instances are usually running on capacity and always in need of donations, and that’s when the owner isn’t handling the costs themselves. I’m not sure how well most instances have right now.

                            Maybe Lemmy would benefit of some way to get people to pay, such as giving people awards etc. like Reddit. Despite being useless stuff, it might provide some fun that would make hardcore users want to pay. But for that to work out, all apps would also need to show the posts awarded in a different way, so I think that’s unlikely.

                            But the point is that without a business model, the Fediverse will only be able to handle enthusiasts.

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                            LW definitely can't handle more traffic than it already has. It already (thanks to the admins' refusal to update to the latest version of Lemmy) takes multiple days for LW content to get federated to other instances properly, which is why I've had to switch over to this alt account of mine because there are zero comments on this post in my main instance. With more users, that delay would grow from days to potentially weeks.

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                              I say give it three years and blue sky will just be a neolib twitter

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                              Anybody who supports the definition of liberalism is an ally, imo.

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                                IMO bridgy is not well designed. The fact that it requires both the follower and the followee to specifically opt in basically makes it DOA. Both Mastodon and BlueSky are completely open and public in terms of post visibility, so bridgy should have been designed to require explicit opt outs from anyone who didn't want their content bridged.

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                                Bridgy started without that requirement and it pissed off too many Mastodonians so they reworked it

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                                  I think the uphill battle here is that a good amount of the active users on lemmy are probably very tech savvy. The percentage of us who aren’t, are doing it wrong in their eyes.

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                                  Dunno, I like the fact that people here are tech-savvy. My HS guidance counselor said I should always hang out with people that are smarter than I am. That's why I like it here, everypony seems so knowledgable.

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                                    Anybody who supports the definition of liberalism is an ally, imo.

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                                    Yeah, infighting in the resistance is a waste of time.

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                                    • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                                      On the surface, both of them look very similar in format. They also both advertise themselves as decentralized and different from traditional social media, arguing that they won't face the same problems old social media did.

                                      Mastodon uses ActivityPub, which is the widely used standard that most other fediverse platforms use. Mastodon is properly decentralized, where all the servers can interact and operate independently.

                                      BlueSky made their own standard, citing that ActivityPub wasn't enough for what they wanted to do, and in some ways that's true. However with their structure, a centralized relay is needed in order for different instances to interact and so people argue that it isn't truly decentralized. BlueSky is either the only instance, or basically the only instance.

                                      BlueSky is also a VC backed company while Mastodon is now under a nonprofit. BlueSky has its roots in crypto tech.

                                      My personal opinion is that I really hope bluesky does what they're promising, but I'm not expecting them to be any different than Twitter once they get a critical mass of users and the investors demand profits / infinite growth.

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                                      from what i understand, a decentralized bluesky is nothing for an enduser at all.

                                      TL;DR: the cost for an enduser to run a bluesky instance will soon be prohibitive because of the amount of storage needed owed to its shared heap architecture. but what it does is to provide a "credible exit" - if users lose trust or the company shutters, there's nothing in the way of another organisation picking up the mantle and continue from there on.

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                                        I’m really not happy about bluesky their fragmentation of the fediverse protocols

                                        shrug, I wish they were with us, but they are also a big ole corporate entity, so I'm kind ok with us staying our our side of the fence. As they need to implement payment and corporate protections to their network, we're free to be free over here.

                                        is only going to harm us in the long run.

                                        We don't have to play ball. not with them anyway,

                                        I think, If we have any credible threat, it's going to be from the Governmental gross anti-tampering laws, forced moderation, or backup regulations. They could make it legally difficulty for us to exist.

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                                        I think, If we have any credible threat, it's going to be from the Governmental gross anti-tampering laws, forced moderation, or backup regulations. They could make it legally difficulty for us to exist

                                        This. I have considerable concern that Fascists will straight up ban Fedi if enough people shift to it. They don't like not being able to control everything, Fedi is far too much actual freedom of communication.

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                                        • ikidd@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                          Ain't nobody wanna see that.

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                                          Being humble is sexy!

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