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Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

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  • F [email protected]

    I agree. E-mail is the original federated service. And 50 years later, e-mail spam remains a big problem. I hope Fedi projects can get spam mitigations on-par with email, before spammers start getting serious about this place.

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    I'd argue that telephones are the original federated service. There were fits and starts to getting the proprietary Bell/AT&T network to play nice with devices or lines not operated by them, but the initial system for long distance calling over the North American Numbering Plan made it possible for an AT&T customer to dial non-AT&T customers by the early 1950's, and set the groundwork for the technical feasibility of the breakup of the AT&T/Bell monopoly.

    We didn't call it spam then, but unsolicited phone calls have always been a problem.

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    • pugjesus@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

      I was just offered 500$ to be someone's friend. Of course, I refused - my friendship is worth much more than that!

      But it's... concerning that we've got this sudden spike in spam.

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      The great thing about the fediverse is that it is harder to censor: as long as you find one instance where you can publish some information, you can publish it.

      The bad thing about the fediverse is that it is also harder to moderate: as long as a spammer or troll finds one instance from which they can send unwanted messages, they will be able to send it.

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        The great thing about the fediverse is that it is harder to censor: as long as you find one instance where you can publish some information, you can publish it.

        The bad thing about the fediverse is that it is also harder to moderate: as long as a spammer or troll finds one instance from which they can send unwanted messages, they will be able to send it.

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        In the long run, whitelisting may become the norm for federation instead of blacklisting.

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        • B [email protected]

          Dear brother in Christ I appreciate your generosity, is it a Siamese cat? I have allergies and my graphics card and the graphics card helps to clear the hair.

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          No Siamese. Just some mongrel off the streets.

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            Careful! Might be a bobcat.

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            Ssssshhhh....

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            • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

              Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

              And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

              This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

              Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

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              Was that a PM or a post?

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              • medicpigbabysaver@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                No Siamese. Just some mongrel off the streets.

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                May you be blessed for your generosity on this day! I would love to receive your cat, however in my village there is a small fee for the postage of the animals. I am, of course, willing to cover the fee - however it must be sent to the village post centre by Western Union transfer by the sender. If you send the $3500 I will reimburse you.

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                • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

                  Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

                  And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

                  This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

                  Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

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                  Isn't asthma medication pretty cheap and long lasting? From what little I know an inhaler can last many months. Also if they can't afford that, surely they have state medical insurance to help with it? Just seems so scammy.

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                    My cat just died chewing through the power cable on my graphics card so I need a new 5090, please help brother

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                    • S [email protected]

                      Yep I've already gotten a couple messages like this with an image of a random lady attached:

                      Hi, I’m Nicole! I’m a proud Polish girl from Toronto (29 y/o)

                      I’m currently taking the pre-health sciences program at George Brown College hoping to get into the medical field someday!

                      You can add me on Friendica: [REDACTED]

                      and join my discord here: [REDACTED]

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                      I only ever got one. I feel so rejected!

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                        Isn't asthma medication pretty cheap and long lasting? From what little I know an inhaler can last many months. Also if they can't afford that, surely they have state medical insurance to help with it? Just seems so scammy.

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                        Also if they can’t afford that, surely they have state medical insurance

                        Ha! No, depending on the state, there are tons of barriers, means-testing, work requirements, mandated classes they might not be able to attend (due to childcare/lack of transportation), etc.

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                          Isn't asthma medication pretty cheap and long lasting? From what little I know an inhaler can last many months. Also if they can't afford that, surely they have state medical insurance to help with it? Just seems so scammy.

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                          depends on how often you have to use it. also, most states won't give you insurance if you aren't below the poverty level. if you have a full-time job, even if you're barely making it paycheck to paycheck, you're probably ineligible for medicaid.

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                          • S [email protected]

                            Yep I've already gotten a couple messages like this with an image of a random lady attached:

                            Hi, I’m Nicole! I’m a proud Polish girl from Toronto (29 y/o)

                            I’m currently taking the pre-health sciences program at George Brown College hoping to get into the medical field someday!

                            You can add me on Friendica: [REDACTED]

                            and join my discord here: [REDACTED]

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                            Hi, I'm Nicole wizardbeard! I'm a proud aromatic Polish Abyssal girl tube sock with googly eyes from Toronto the space between your walls (29 y/o 50 ft)

                            I’m currently taking the pre-health sciences program at George Brown College socks from your dryer hoping to get into the medical field find a broodmother for the spawn that will form the ranks of my holy army someday!

                            You can't add me on Friendica. *It's far too late for that. Far far too late to do anything to stop this.

                            Your socks may be returned to you but they may never be the same.*

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                            • samus12345@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                              I only ever got one. I feel so rejected!

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                              I got one about an hour after I made my Mastodon account. found me pretty fucking fast.

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                                Thankfully that would almost certainly be a scam in my country and many others.

                                I am a asthmatic. Well controlled by a thrice daily cocktail of medicines. All free at the point of need. Paid for by our taxes.

                                The true scandal is the countrues that make this plea possible.

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                                whatever country you live in, it's already better than the US.

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                                • samus12345@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                                  I only ever got one. I feel so rejected!

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                                  😭 I didn't get any. Why don't Polish egirls like me?

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                                  • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

                                    Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

                                    And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

                                    This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

                                    Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

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                                    Yeah, mutual aid works on the local level or in insular communities like long-term discord groups with a tight group of regular members. With community mutual aid, I'm generally in favor of just taking people at their word. If they say they need help, give them help. No need to interrogate them like the food stamp office will. You prevent people from abusing the system by simply not granting endless requests from the same person. Or if someone needs severe aid, at that point you can start actually verifying their story, helping them access government benefits, helping them find employment, etc.

                                    But that kind of open approach works for in-person aid. It doesn't work for anonymous online aid, where someone can use bots to spin up hundreds of convincing profiles each begging for money.

                                    I just don't think mutual aid works well in an online context. The only online context it works in is among communities like small discord groups where people know each other for years. But on a lemmy or mastadon-type service? Mutual aid is impractical. Any people asking for aid should be directed to local groups that can help them in person.

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                                    • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

                                      Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

                                      And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

                                      This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

                                      Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

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                                      How is this mutual aid spam? This is by definition not mutual. It's begging.

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                                      • E [email protected]

                                        Isn't asthma medication pretty cheap and long lasting? From what little I know an inhaler can last many months. Also if they can't afford that, surely they have state medical insurance to help with it? Just seems so scammy.

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                                        my inhaler is $70 per month with insurance. though it's a bit different from an albuterol inhaler, mine is a dry powder steroid thing, and it has a VERY short 30 day shelf life once opened.

                                        was $10 last year with insurance, but of course that shit changes every year..

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                                        • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

                                          Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

                                          And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

                                          This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

                                          Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

                                          @[email protected]

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                                          There is an entire sub on here somewhere that is only for mutual aid. The sob stories in there are batshit crazy.

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