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Microsoft tells Windows 10 users to just trade in their PC for a newer one, because how hard can it be?

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  • B [email protected]

    Adobe and ease of use

    I need Adobe, specifically Lightroom, because there’s no alternative. I can’t just stop using it as a semi-professional photographer (I make money from it, just not a ton).

    Darktable doesn’t handle large libraries well and also is missing features such as AI remove and integration with photoshop for splitting photos up for social media posts.

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    Sorry but then you will have to continue living on your knees, drinking verification cans at their mercy and pray they don't alter the deal again (they will).

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    • pillowtalk420@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

      sigh does it at least come with ranch or peanutbutter? Celery is better with one of those.

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      Peanut butter and raisins, gotta get those ants on a log.

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        Seriously, use Linux. What is the problem?

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        The problem is there are a billion versions of linux, idk what one to choosex idk if i can play my steam games on linux, everyone who talks about linux seems to be a programmer /coder, and uses jargon that i don't even understand, so idk if I'll even be able to USE linux. And if I ask any questions I feel like it's all gonna end up sounsing like another language to me.

        The whole idea of moving to linux is overwhelming.

        But I'm starting to hate windows 11. And fuck Apple all together.

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          Adobe and ease of use

          I need Adobe, specifically Lightroom, because there’s no alternative. I can’t just stop using it as a semi-professional photographer (I make money from it, just not a ton).

          Darktable doesn’t handle large libraries well and also is missing features such as AI remove and integration with photoshop for splitting photos up for social media posts.

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          Then Apple. Their M-series are fantastic, and their support cycles are great. Also, taking marketshare from Microsoft is generally a good thing because it'll force them to make a better product.

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          • p_kanarinac@retrolemmy.comP [email protected]

            Not sure what made them not work, but this makes sense.

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            If it's anticheat, blame the devs, because they're specifically blocking Linux. If it's something else, maybe we can help.

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            • O [email protected]

              I'm going to go against the grain here a bit and say that people considering a switch to Linux need to have certain expectations going into it. There are zero guarantees that anything Linux will be a "just works" operation. Especially when you get into the laptop scene and proprietary hardware.

              Like sometimes an update will break things. Sometimes you will break things and spend time fixing it. Sometimes a piece of software and/or hardware will just not work at all and you'll try convoluted workarounds that may or may not work. Linux support is often an afterthought considering <5% of desktop users use it. Popular programs and software are often just not available at all and the FOSS alternatives lack features you may need.

              I truly feel that Linux is like the "I own an old hotrod in my garage and work on it as a hobby" compared to "I drive a cheap commuter car and just want it to work". Yes windows breaks sometimes too, and I hate using their current operating system at work with telemetry and ads and knee-crippling limitations or random ass crashes, etc.

              But I've also been in the position that I woke up one day and updated Garuda Linux and spent the entire day trying to not boot into a plain black screen when I had my KVM connected. I finally got my fstab working to mount my NFS share of my NAS after months of fucking with it when I feel like this is an incredibly easy "problem" that's solution should have been apparent for the last 30 years or so and in my eyes should be something the OS should just "do on its own" automatically.

              All that being said, I still love Linux and will never use anything else on my systems. I enjoy the tweaking of things, experimenting, having all the control I could ever want.

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              Linux is like the “I own an old hotrod in my garage and work on it as a hobby” compared to “I drive a cheap commuter car and just want it to work”

              Really?

              Linux gives you choice, sure, but it doesn't just randomly break unless you're doing something exotic.

              Garuda Linux

              There's your problem, you're using a bleeding edge distro, which is like having a hotrod.

              If you want a boring commuter, install a boring commuter distro, like Debian. If you want something fresher, there are a lot of options before you get to Arch-based distros, like Fedora. Stick to the most popular distros and you probably won't have problems.

              Don't get me wrong, Arch can be fantastic, I ran it for several years with minimal problems, but you really do need to be ready to step in and get your hands dirty.

              My main advice is to go in expecting to need to replace software. A lot of stuff works (e.g. discord, Steam, etc), but a lot of stuff doesn't. If you're flexible, use a mainstream distro, and stick to what's available in the repo or on flathub, it'll probably be more stable than Windows. Just don't expect your random RGB app or whatever to work, and be ready to swap some POS hardware if the manufacturer doesn't support Linux (e.g. certain WiFi vendors that aren't Intel).

              Also, don't expect Linux to make things faster, you're still limited by your hardware. But do expect common tasks to work well.

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                It’s online corps offload computers but there will be a delay and many will just have the extended windows 10 supports. So I’d give it another year.

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                Good time to start looking for a good deal on cheap home lab crap though.

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                  Yes. The totaly real PC trade-in market...

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                  At best, I've seen a small discount and whatever is traded in is junked to keep it off the second-hand market.

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                    I really want to put Linux on my gaming PC, but I'm doubtful I can get my Rift S working on there. 😕

                    Apparently there is an openxr driver for it, though, so I suppose I should at least give it a shot.

                    There's absolutely no way I'm going to win11, though.

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                    Yeah, this is why I never got into VR, the Linux support blows even if you get a supported headset because the games aren't made for Linux. There are some games, sure, but it's not worth spending $1k+ on an Index.

                    I'll use it once the barrier to entry drops or Linux support improves.

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                      At best, I've seen a small discount and whatever is traded in is junked to keep it off the second-hand market.

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                      You could probably trade it in a pawn shop, now that I think agian about it.

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                      • E [email protected]

                        I'd just be scared of windows trying to clobber my nix partition.

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                        Use separate disks.

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                          The problem is there are a billion versions of linux, idk what one to choosex idk if i can play my steam games on linux, everyone who talks about linux seems to be a programmer /coder, and uses jargon that i don't even understand, so idk if I'll even be able to USE linux. And if I ask any questions I feel like it's all gonna end up sounsing like another language to me.

                          The whole idea of moving to linux is overwhelming.

                          But I'm starting to hate windows 11. And fuck Apple all together.

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                          Just get Mint, you'll be fine.

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                          • B [email protected]

                            Adobe and ease of use

                            I need Adobe, specifically Lightroom, because there’s no alternative. I can’t just stop using it as a semi-professional photographer (I make money from it, just not a ton).

                            Darktable doesn’t handle large libraries well and also is missing features such as AI remove and integration with photoshop for splitting photos up for social media posts.

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                            OK but people who need Adobe are a really small minority.

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                            • G [email protected]

                              TPM part is easy. It's them arbitrarily cutting out cpu generations that's the problem.

                              oh you have an almost brand new cpu, sorry we decided you needed a slightly newer line for win 11. Just trade it in for a new one

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                              Yup. OG Ryzen had TPM but wasn't supported for Windows. Not sure if that has changed.

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                              • D [email protected]

                                Just in case anyone reading doenst know - the free tool Rufus can write a Win 11 ISO to your usb drive md remove all the silly soft requirements.

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                                The free OS Linux also doesn't pull this crap, and Rufus can write a Linux ISO to your USB drive and remove Microsoft's gaslighting from your life.

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                                • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                  Fair, but that's not a Linux problem. Publishers need to support the platform. Is windows bad for not "running" final cut?

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                                  The question was why it's hard for people to sswitxh to Linux. They answered the question. It doesn't matter if it's Linux's "fault" or not.

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                                    Trade in their PCs to who? Fucking Aquaman?

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                                    I love how memes (in the Dawkinsian sense) work. Lots of people have enjoyed this, but I can imagine this being quoted as the original is lost to the sands of time.

                                    Young people everywhere thinking that Aquaman was someone who just bought failing assets from everyone.

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                                      Also IT guy. Hot take indeed. I've done this but won't support this.
                                      I will almost guarantee some update will break shit at the most inconvenient time humanly possible and the people you've done this for will need your help, all at the same time.

                                      I'm using this opportunity to expand Linux market share.

                                      Most people only use browser.
                                      People that ask me about Windows 10 eol get pushed towards Linux.

                                      Only if they need stuff that won't work on Linux or they really really want Windows to use Chrome or Firefox on for some reason I'll recommend complying with Microsoft's hubris.

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                                      I'm imagining me doing this to my building of elderly, it dies and then opening my eyes to 40 work orders. Lmao

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                                      • gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zoneG [email protected]

                                        I've already switched my mom and grandma to Linux, and I've personally only got 1 PC still on Windows. Its days are numbered though.

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                                        The only PC we have with Windows is my wife's, and that's because she plays an anti-cheat game. My desktop, laptop, NAS, and Steam Deck all run Linux.

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                                        • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                          It is, but i wanted to contextualize it for them and others reading. People sometimes have some idea that it would be impossible to port due to some inhernat aspect to linux. Might be true for something that makes heavy windows API use, but for many others its just a business case. And I wanted emphasis that a bit

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                                          I have never run into anyone who thinks it would be impossible to port Photoshop to Linux.

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