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Microsoft tells Windows 10 users to just trade in their PC for a newer one, because how hard can it be?

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  • ? Guest

    This is already too jargon filled for a new user and overwhelming. I already went through this with my partner who told me off for it lol.

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    Two things.

    One: You could literally say use Linux Mint in 2010 and in 2025 and be ok. You don't need to know about the totality of the ecosystem in order to use Linux any more than you must understand the totality automotive tech and every car to pick one and drive. If you pick the something different its also probably good enough.

    Two: If they really are too stupid at some degree of ineptitude they are just going to need to pay someone smarter their money whether that is Apple, another Windows machine, or even a Linux OEM. Installing your own OS on an infinite range of hardware with a range of support is never going to be so easy someone who is entirely tech illiterate can do it and that is ok.

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      "Trade in" like theres a dealership willing to give you some kind of fair value for your old computer.
      That said, if you're willing to be extorted by Microsoft, then you get what you have coming to you.

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        Hah. Good luck trying to make me dispose of the computer I built almost a decade ago and that I just upgraded. Not even my laptops have outlived or outperformed this baby.

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        I put Linux on my mom's laptop which is nearing two decades old at this point. It was the pragmatic choice even though I personally use Windows.

        Windows security updates only last a few years. Would be annoying to keep reinstalling and re explaining the changed UI every few years.

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          Two things.

          One: You could literally say use Linux Mint in 2010 and in 2025 and be ok. You don't need to know about the totality of the ecosystem in order to use Linux any more than you must understand the totality automotive tech and every car to pick one and drive. If you pick the something different its also probably good enough.

          Two: If they really are too stupid at some degree of ineptitude they are just going to need to pay someone smarter their money whether that is Apple, another Windows machine, or even a Linux OEM. Installing your own OS on an infinite range of hardware with a range of support is never going to be so easy someone who is entirely tech illiterate can do it and that is ok.

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          It's not wise to assume someone is stupid based on ability with technology. This is why Linux fans drive people away and harm adoption.

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            Funny because people still use Windows 7 in large quantities across the world.

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            Windows 7 is such a nice user experience today, if you use it in 2025 you really get an idea of how far windows has fallen off.

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              Seriously, use Linux. What is the problem?

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              People are too addicted to video games apparently

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                Users to microsoft: "You're creating a huge pile of garbage out of perfectly fine devices because of unneeded hardware requirement"

                microsoft: "It's ok, just buy a new one"

                Rarely have a message gone through so bad.

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                Can you believe this company has a Chief Sustainability Officer? What the fuck do they do all day?

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                  Then Apple. Their M-series are fantastic, and their support cycles are great. Also, taking marketshare from Microsoft is generally a good thing because it'll force them to make a better product.

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                  And I can’t game on Apple. A mac is a useless brick for the remaining 50% of what I do on a computer.

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                    If it came down to ditching adobe or quitting photography I would quit photography and I love taking photos lol.

                    Adobe is a threat to the photography industry for many reasons (especially to future photographers who want to follow in your footsteps) you should reconsider your options.

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                    Thank you for the useless opinion that adds nothing. Congrats

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                      I'm not using windows, but apple does the same thing. My OS is 9 versions old because they won't let me upgrade without buying a new computer.

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                        I'm not using windows, but apple does the same thing. My OS is 9 versions old because they won't let me upgrade without buying a new computer.

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                        That's apple wanting to control their closed hardware ecosystem. Windows is built to run on a significantly wider range of hardware, so isn't really comparable in that way.

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                          But then the People wouldnt pay for it over and over again?

                          People are way less willing to pay for updates than for whole new versions.

                          Apple and companies using Android are selling hardware, not software like Microsoft.

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                          They make most of their money from pro licenses and telemety data anyway, I'm sure.

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                            I'm not using windows, but apple does the same thing. My OS is 9 versions old because they won't let me upgrade without buying a new computer.

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                            Try OpenCore Legacy Patcher

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                              But then the People wouldnt pay for it over and over again?

                              People are way less willing to pay for updates than for whole new versions.

                              Apple and companies using Android are selling hardware, not software like Microsoft.

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                              Pay for windows?

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                                I can't really think of a better example of what you're talking about than that there's three other people replying to this, each recommending you use a different flavor of linux...

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                                Lmfao yes, case in point.

                                But I'm going ahead and trying to sift through all the info I'm getting here, and so far I'm getting the idea that what ever I start with should at least have the word Mint

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                                  That's apple wanting to control their closed hardware ecosystem. Windows is built to run on a significantly wider range of hardware, so isn't really comparable in that way.

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                                  I guess that's true. But both are acting everyone just has money to waste.

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                                    I mean it's one computer, Michael, what could it cost?

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                                      How much could a new PC be Michael, $10?

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                                      Just buy a new girlfriend!

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                                        Linux/BSD blah blah blah

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                                          Try OpenCore Legacy Patcher

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                                          I've seen similar options, but haven't heard of this one. Looks like my 17 yr old comp might be compatible. I wonder how compatible though, since most of my USB ports already don't work with my supported OS.

                                          Anyway, thanks, I'll look more into it.

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