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Microsoft tells Windows 10 users to just trade in their PC for a newer one, because how hard can it be?

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  • M [email protected]

    Two things.

    One: You could literally say use Linux Mint in 2010 and in 2025 and be ok. You don't need to know about the totality of the ecosystem in order to use Linux any more than you must understand the totality automotive tech and every car to pick one and drive. If you pick the something different its also probably good enough.

    Two: If they really are too stupid at some degree of ineptitude they are just going to need to pay someone smarter their money whether that is Apple, another Windows machine, or even a Linux OEM. Installing your own OS on an infinite range of hardware with a range of support is never going to be so easy someone who is entirely tech illiterate can do it and that is ok.

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    It's not wise to assume someone is stupid based on ability with technology. This is why Linux fans drive people away and harm adoption.

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      Funny because people still use Windows 7 in large quantities across the world.

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      Windows 7 is such a nice user experience today, if you use it in 2025 you really get an idea of how far windows has fallen off.

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        Seriously, use Linux. What is the problem?

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        People are too addicted to video games apparently

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          Users to microsoft: "You're creating a huge pile of garbage out of perfectly fine devices because of unneeded hardware requirement"

          microsoft: "It's ok, just buy a new one"

          Rarely have a message gone through so bad.

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          Can you believe this company has a Chief Sustainability Officer? What the fuck do they do all day?

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            Then Apple. Their M-series are fantastic, and their support cycles are great. Also, taking marketshare from Microsoft is generally a good thing because it'll force them to make a better product.

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            And I can’t game on Apple. A mac is a useless brick for the remaining 50% of what I do on a computer.

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              If it came down to ditching adobe or quitting photography I would quit photography and I love taking photos lol.

              Adobe is a threat to the photography industry for many reasons (especially to future photographers who want to follow in your footsteps) you should reconsider your options.

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              Thank you for the useless opinion that adds nothing. Congrats

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                I'm not using windows, but apple does the same thing. My OS is 9 versions old because they won't let me upgrade without buying a new computer.

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                  I'm not using windows, but apple does the same thing. My OS is 9 versions old because they won't let me upgrade without buying a new computer.

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                  That's apple wanting to control their closed hardware ecosystem. Windows is built to run on a significantly wider range of hardware, so isn't really comparable in that way.

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                    But then the People wouldnt pay for it over and over again?

                    People are way less willing to pay for updates than for whole new versions.

                    Apple and companies using Android are selling hardware, not software like Microsoft.

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                    They make most of their money from pro licenses and telemety data anyway, I'm sure.

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                      I'm not using windows, but apple does the same thing. My OS is 9 versions old because they won't let me upgrade without buying a new computer.

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                      Try OpenCore Legacy Patcher

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                        But then the People wouldnt pay for it over and over again?

                        People are way less willing to pay for updates than for whole new versions.

                        Apple and companies using Android are selling hardware, not software like Microsoft.

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                        Pay for windows?

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                          I can't really think of a better example of what you're talking about than that there's three other people replying to this, each recommending you use a different flavor of linux...

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                          Lmfao yes, case in point.

                          But I'm going ahead and trying to sift through all the info I'm getting here, and so far I'm getting the idea that what ever I start with should at least have the word Mint

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                            That's apple wanting to control their closed hardware ecosystem. Windows is built to run on a significantly wider range of hardware, so isn't really comparable in that way.

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                            I guess that's true. But both are acting everyone just has money to waste.

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                              I mean it's one computer, Michael, what could it cost?

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                                How much could a new PC be Michael, $10?

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                                Just buy a new girlfriend!

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                                  Linux/BSD blah blah blah

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                                    Try OpenCore Legacy Patcher

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                                    I've seen similar options, but haven't heard of this one. Looks like my 17 yr old comp might be compatible. I wonder how compatible though, since most of my USB ports already don't work with my supported OS.

                                    Anyway, thanks, I'll look more into it.

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                                      I tried creating a Steam account and was blocked by the revolving captcha security thing - took days to try to get help from their customer care and by the time they got back to me I had lost interest. I spent the waitjng time researching Valve and I decided they are not an ethical business. Made me sad as I loved the idea of a customised-for-gaming-on-console linux OS and liked the look of the hardware. But Valve is a monopolist and has too much market share and too many users and thus too much power - USA politics today shows how big a risk that is. Valve supports unethical business models like 'rent game to play', AI-generated junk games and IP violations so it debases game development and hurts indy developers, live-streaming games which is bad for environment. It promotes 'easy access/always on gaming' and is thus profiting from addiction-to-gaming, which ix a MASSIVE problem and few gamers admit it. It's an American corporation and I distrust American corporate culture. Most of which might be said of other console/platforms so its not just Valve/Steam, I feel wary of but the whole industry. I bought a second-hand Switch so did not help Nintendo/Japanese corporate power directly. I bought a bundle of 2nd-hand games on sd card with minimal download content (except for 'No Man's Sky' which constantly updates). I am trying to be an ethical gamer - limit my time gaming to stop me becoming an addict etc. But I admit I am compromised - I spend too much time gaming, being retired its easy to lose track of time. Honestly, I feel like a vegan who wraps bacon in thick wholemeal sandwiches and pretends they are not really eating pigs since its mainly bread. I am 'a work in progress'.

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                                      Valve isn't like most USA corporations, they're private and generally a lot better.

                                      As an indie developer, Valve has helped me a lot. I have my game on Switch, Xbox One, Epic, and Steam, and Steam is by far the most revenue, and was the first platform that accepted my game. They make it so easy for indie devs to ship games - yeah the downside is they get a lot of low effort submissions, but the user rating system takes care of that (mostly). And they're adding more warnings for gamers about what games have AI generated content/art.

                                      blocked by the revolving captcha security thing

                                      I've seen this happen for people behind VPNs or using public access points (coffee shops, schools, etc). Valve has to do this to prevent spammers, and the sad part is a lot of real users get hit too. But before they did there was a lot more spam user accounts in the steam forums and messaging users, usually scams. If you still want to create an account and can't get past the captcha send me a private message and I can help you out with it.

                                      I don't love Valve, as they're just a company at the end of the day, but they have done a lot of positive things for Linux gaming and the indie developer scene. Especially for linux graphics drivers.

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                                        People are too addicted to video games apparently

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                                        Gaming on Linux is better than it's ever been. But yeah still a few Windows only releases, but that time is coming to an end I think.

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                                          I can't really think of a better example of what you're talking about than that there's three other people replying to this, each recommending you use a different flavor of linux...

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                                          It's just personal preference though. You could pick any of the popular modern ones and run everything just fine. It's like buying an Android phone. Plenty of brands to choose from, but they can all get the job done, run whatever apps you want, etc.

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