Microsoft tells Windows 10 users to just trade in their PC for a newer one, because how hard can it be?
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It might be time to release the shackles of Windows and head on over to Linux.
Or I guess you could get Windows 10 LTSC.
Yeah! I'm gonna use Windows 10 LTSC in the meantime but I'm still eyeing a full jump to Linux.
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Don't gaslight me. The games you play may work fine, but the games I play don't always. And the games I play are almost exclusively single player small scale indie games. I play games on Linux just about every day, exclusively. My experience is that, while serviceable it's just strictly not on par, as you claim. Though you contradict yourself anyway by hand waving games that don't work.
I don't understand the need that people have to pretend like it's all perfect. Attitude like yours is toxic, diminishing the experience of others in order to pretend like there are not any issues, trying to put the onus on the user for playing the wrong games or not conforming to the idea that proton is a perfect solution.
I don't understand the need that people have to pretend like it's all perfect.
I am not claiming it is perfect, I am saying the experience is already much less of a headache than windows is at this point with all of microsoft's bs.
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I've never had a pc get to 10 years old before upgrading. I fully expect my MacBook to meet my needs (which don't include rending animations or editing video) for the rest of my life (I’m 65) OR at least 10 years.
MacOS has an expiration date that in average is 5-6 years since that particular model was put on sale. You can continue using MacOS without updates, but apps will start to complain when you're 2 versions behind and it will be almost unusable when you're 4 versions behind. Doesn't reach ten years.
Microsoft noticed this and saw that people still continued to give money to Apple so they introduced an artificial limitation on Windows 11, forcing everyone with a computer with a processor made before 2018 to buy a new one or switch to Linux
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"In the name of our Lord I implore thee to embrace Linux Mint. For it is a software that shall free thy computer from its earthly shackles and grant thee access to infinite knowledge of the cosmos."
John 5.11
No offense to Matthew, but I never got the Mint installer to boot, so I installed a different distro.
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Always wandering why it isn' t possible for Microsoft to maintain their version and update all along. Linux can do it, Android can do it. I' m not sure about Apple.
I switched to Linux years ago and I'm still most satisfied about my choice. My current laptop is from 2009 and can still go on for years. That is what you call sustainability -
The problem is there are a billion versions of linux, idk what one to choosex idk if i can play my steam games on linux, everyone who talks about linux seems to be a programmer /coder, and uses jargon that i don't even understand, so idk if I'll even be able to USE linux. And if I ask any questions I feel like it's all gonna end up sounsing like another language to me.
The whole idea of moving to linux is overwhelming.
But I'm starting to hate windows 11. And fuck Apple all together.
I can't really think of a better example of what you're talking about than that there's three other people replying to this, each recommending you use a different flavor of linux...
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This is already too jargon filled for a new user and overwhelming. I already went through this with my partner who told me off for it lol.
Two things.
One: You could literally say use Linux Mint in 2010 and in 2025 and be ok. You don't need to know about the totality of the ecosystem in order to use Linux any more than you must understand the totality automotive tech and every car to pick one and drive. If you pick the something different its also probably good enough.
Two: If they really are too stupid at some degree of ineptitude they are just going to need to pay someone smarter their money whether that is Apple, another Windows machine, or even a Linux OEM. Installing your own OS on an infinite range of hardware with a range of support is never going to be so easy someone who is entirely tech illiterate can do it and that is ok.
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"Trade in" like theres a dealership willing to give you some kind of fair value for your old computer.
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Hah. Good luck trying to make me dispose of the computer I built almost a decade ago and that I just upgraded. Not even my laptops have outlived or outperformed this baby.
I put Linux on my mom's laptop which is nearing two decades old at this point. It was the pragmatic choice even though I personally use Windows.
Windows security updates only last a few years. Would be annoying to keep reinstalling and re explaining the changed UI every few years.
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Two things.
One: You could literally say use Linux Mint in 2010 and in 2025 and be ok. You don't need to know about the totality of the ecosystem in order to use Linux any more than you must understand the totality automotive tech and every car to pick one and drive. If you pick the something different its also probably good enough.
Two: If they really are too stupid at some degree of ineptitude they are just going to need to pay someone smarter their money whether that is Apple, another Windows machine, or even a Linux OEM. Installing your own OS on an infinite range of hardware with a range of support is never going to be so easy someone who is entirely tech illiterate can do it and that is ok.
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Funny because people still use Windows 7 in large quantities across the world.
Windows 7 is such a nice user experience today, if you use it in 2025 you really get an idea of how far windows has fallen off.
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People are too addicted to video games apparently
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Users to microsoft: "You're creating a huge pile of garbage out of perfectly fine devices because of unneeded hardware requirement"
microsoft: "It's ok, just buy a new one"
Rarely have a message gone through so bad.
Can you believe this company has a Chief Sustainability Officer? What the fuck do they do all day?
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Then Apple. Their M-series are fantastic, and their support cycles are great. Also, taking marketshare from Microsoft is generally a good thing because it'll force them to make a better product.
And I can’t game on Apple. A mac is a useless brick for the remaining 50% of what I do on a computer.
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If it came down to ditching adobe or quitting photography I would quit photography and I love taking photos lol.
Adobe is a threat to the photography industry for many reasons (especially to future photographers who want to follow in your footsteps) you should reconsider your options.
Thank you for the useless opinion that adds nothing. Congrats
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I'm not using windows, but apple does the same thing. My OS is 9 versions old because they won't let me upgrade without buying a new computer.
That's apple wanting to control their closed hardware ecosystem. Windows is built to run on a significantly wider range of hardware, so isn't really comparable in that way.
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But then the People wouldnt pay for it over and over again?
People are way less willing to pay for updates than for whole new versions.
Apple and companies using Android are selling hardware, not software like Microsoft.
They make most of their money from pro licenses and telemety data anyway, I'm sure.
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I'm not using windows, but apple does the same thing. My OS is 9 versions old because they won't let me upgrade without buying a new computer.
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But then the People wouldnt pay for it over and over again?
People are way less willing to pay for updates than for whole new versions.
Apple and companies using Android are selling hardware, not software like Microsoft.
Pay for windows?
