Microsoft tells Windows 10 users to just trade in their PC for a newer one, because how hard can it be?
-
gaslighting
Bro, i cut my teeth on FreeBSD 2.2.x and lived through the Great Linux / Windows wars of 95 and 98…
but im not so sure MS ever gaslit anyone. everyone seemed to have a pretty solid perception of reality.
Maybe the term gaslighting means something new to you
I use it in the sense that Microsoft is changing what you perceive to be ownership. They're essentially gaslighting you into believing that they actually own your PC, and that you need to upgrade to be compatible with Windows, instead of Windows being compatible with your hardware.
-
Will installing / using this reset or format the Mac? I mean, as a first time install thing.
-
Will installing / using this reset or format the Mac? I mean, as a first time install thing.
Believe so, yes. You have to clean install the OS with a installer made using the tool.
-
Believe so, yes. You have to clean install the OS with a installer made using the tool.
Ah ok. Thanks!
-
Well, for people that buy into Apple, there's a higher chance that's the case
-
I use it in the sense that Microsoft is changing what you perceive to be ownership. They're essentially gaslighting you into believing that they actually own your PC, and that you need to upgrade to be compatible with Windows, instead of Windows being compatible with your hardware.
I use it in the sense
right, like i figured, you’ve got your own definition
They're essentially gaslighting you into believing that they actually own your PC
can you share some examples of this behavior?
-
I use it in the sense
right, like i figured, you’ve got your own definition
They're essentially gaslighting you into believing that they actually own your PC
can you share some examples of this behavior?
Here's the definition I see:
psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator
My use is a bit hyperbolic, sure, but it's in the same vein.
Microsoft has slowly been taking more control:
- Microsoft Store w/ UWP apps - attempt at lock-in
- secure boot - makes some sense kn corporate devices, little sense on consumer devices and just forced Linux distros to scramble to support it
- Windows login - first optional, then default, then you need a workaround to avoid it
- Windows 11 essentially forcing a hardware upgrade, not for performance reasons, but "lock-in" reasons (need TPM because... security?)
They're really trying to take the "personal" out of "personal computer," all in the name of "security," implying that other approaches are "insecure."
In other words, they're trying to alter what we see as "reality" when it comes to control over our own devices.
-
Here's the definition I see:
psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator
My use is a bit hyperbolic, sure, but it's in the same vein.
Microsoft has slowly been taking more control:
- Microsoft Store w/ UWP apps - attempt at lock-in
- secure boot - makes some sense kn corporate devices, little sense on consumer devices and just forced Linux distros to scramble to support it
- Windows login - first optional, then default, then you need a workaround to avoid it
- Windows 11 essentially forcing a hardware upgrade, not for performance reasons, but "lock-in" reasons (need TPM because... security?)
They're really trying to take the "personal" out of "personal computer," all in the name of "security," implying that other approaches are "insecure."
In other words, they're trying to alter what we see as "reality" when it comes to control over our own devices.
My use is a bit hyperbolic
it really is, across the board.
It’s not 1998 anymore. No one cares about the desktop anymore as long as you can run Firefox.
-
My use is a bit hyperbolic
it really is, across the board.
It’s not 1998 anymore. No one cares about the desktop anymore as long as you can run Firefox.
I absolutely care, but maybe that's because I'm a developer by trade.
-
I absolutely care, but maybe that's because I'm a developer by trade.
i’m sure
-
Do you actually experience something different. People absolutely have different skill sets and can be excellent in one area and be mediocre in others however virtually always the users looking for the any key or complaining a device wont turn on because the monitor is off are the people that are generally dumb as rocks.
-
I'd just be scared of windows trying to clobber my nix partition.
Haven’t had issues since the 2000s. Use a separate boot partition, use UEFI, you’re golden.
-
Android doesnt, my S8 can no longer be updated and many apps are beginning to no be supported. I love this phone, all the new ones are way too big.
-
But then the People wouldnt pay for it over and over again?
People are way less willing to pay for updates than for whole new versions.
Apple and companies using Android are selling hardware, not software like Microsoft.
Updates should be incorparated in the subscription of your software.
True that Apple and companies using Android are selling hardware. But Microsoft is also selling hardware. At my work we use Microsoft Surface laptops and my son in law has a X-Box. They even start selling advertisements. -
True. But the real problem is that we want too much profit and the companies are getting to big. My guess is that if the tax plans are changed and we settle for less money, it will be much better for many things.
It should be added that prices would then also have to be much lower -
System shared this topic on
