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Microsoft tells Windows 10 users to just trade in their PC for a newer one, because how hard can it be?

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  • S [email protected]

    ok, but you are ok with Nintendo then??

    The form factor of switch/steam deck is expanding, valve doesn't by any means have a stranglehold over it, they are by far the biggest player but the benefits to linux gaming are shared across the board which opens up the entire industry not closes it down?

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    You make fair comment. I don't disagree with 99% of what you say. However, I stand by my words about addiction. I agree gaming is potentially a very benign thing and I get a lot of pleasure from gaming but I still want to red flag some aspects of it where addiction does seem to be a factor. Being addicted to gaming has led to health problems for players e.g. repetitive strain injuries or tendonitis - it has adversely affected my health, made my arthritis worse, caused tendonitis so I have had to cut back etc. In extreme cases, addicted gamers have murdered their own babies or been violent to partners because they were distracted by them while playing, lost their temper, and lashed out. And getting players addicted is obviously potentially profitable but making profit from addiction is evil. I say 'responsible gaming' needs to be the uncompromising rule just like with anything else that can be addictive or mood-altering or get under our skins the way a well-made game can.

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      When management doesnโ€™t want to upgrade from XP because it still works

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      My highschool PCs had XP for as long as at all possible. They switched them to some beginner friendly Linux after. Way to go.

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        Well, for people that buy into Apple, there's a higher chance that's the case ๐Ÿ˜…

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        When I was kind of strapped on cash, the 2016 iphone SE was the most best choice by far. The android phones I'd had before that usually cost a similar amount and they all broke in less than three years. But that 290โ‚ฌ bad boy lasted until I lost it in 2023. Shame they're no longer making those. But I guess the silver lining is that people don't make fun of me for having an iPhone anymore.

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          gaslighting

          Bro, i cut my teeth on FreeBSD 2.2.x and lived through the Great Linux / Windows wars of 95 and 98โ€ฆ

          but im not so sure MS ever gaslit anyone. everyone seemed to have a pretty solid perception of reality.

          Maybe the term gaslighting means something new to you ๐Ÿคท

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          I use it in the sense that Microsoft is changing what you perceive to be ownership. They're essentially gaslighting you into believing that they actually own your PC, and that you need to upgrade to be compatible with Windows, instead of Windows being compatible with your hardware.

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            Try OpenCore Legacy Patcher

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            Will installing / using this reset or format the Mac? I mean, as a first time install thing.

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              Will installing / using this reset or format the Mac? I mean, as a first time install thing.

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              Believe so, yes. You have to clean install the OS with a installer made using the tool.

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                Believe so, yes. You have to clean install the OS with a installer made using the tool.

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                Ah ok. Thanks!

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                • N [email protected]

                  Well, for people that buy into Apple, there's a higher chance that's the case ๐Ÿ˜…

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                  True true! But there's a reason why I've only bought used.

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                    I use it in the sense that Microsoft is changing what you perceive to be ownership. They're essentially gaslighting you into believing that they actually own your PC, and that you need to upgrade to be compatible with Windows, instead of Windows being compatible with your hardware.

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                    I use it in the sense

                    right, like i figured, youโ€™ve got your own definition ๐Ÿ‘

                    They're essentially gaslighting you into believing that they actually own your PC

                    can you share some examples of this behavior?

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                      I use it in the sense

                      right, like i figured, youโ€™ve got your own definition ๐Ÿ‘

                      They're essentially gaslighting you into believing that they actually own your PC

                      can you share some examples of this behavior?

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                      Here's the definition I see:

                      psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator

                      My use is a bit hyperbolic, sure, but it's in the same vein.

                      Microsoft has slowly been taking more control:

                      • Microsoft Store w/ UWP apps - attempt at lock-in
                      • secure boot - makes some sense kn corporate devices, little sense on consumer devices and just forced Linux distros to scramble to support it
                      • Windows login - first optional, then default, then you need a workaround to avoid it
                      • Windows 11 essentially forcing a hardware upgrade, not for performance reasons, but "lock-in" reasons (need TPM because... security?)

                      They're really trying to take the "personal" out of "personal computer," all in the name of "security," implying that other approaches are "insecure."

                      In other words, they're trying to alter what we see as "reality" when it comes to control over our own devices.

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                        Here's the definition I see:

                        psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator

                        My use is a bit hyperbolic, sure, but it's in the same vein.

                        Microsoft has slowly been taking more control:

                        • Microsoft Store w/ UWP apps - attempt at lock-in
                        • secure boot - makes some sense kn corporate devices, little sense on consumer devices and just forced Linux distros to scramble to support it
                        • Windows login - first optional, then default, then you need a workaround to avoid it
                        • Windows 11 essentially forcing a hardware upgrade, not for performance reasons, but "lock-in" reasons (need TPM because... security?)

                        They're really trying to take the "personal" out of "personal computer," all in the name of "security," implying that other approaches are "insecure."

                        In other words, they're trying to alter what we see as "reality" when it comes to control over our own devices.

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                        My use is a bit hyperbolic

                        it really is, across the board.

                        Itโ€™s not 1998 anymore. No one cares about the desktop anymore as long as you can run Firefox.

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                          My use is a bit hyperbolic

                          it really is, across the board.

                          Itโ€™s not 1998 anymore. No one cares about the desktop anymore as long as you can run Firefox.

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                          I absolutely care, but maybe that's because I'm a developer by trade.

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                            I absolutely care, but maybe that's because I'm a developer by trade.

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                            iโ€™m sure ๐Ÿ‘

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                              Yikes man, good luck with that.

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                              Do you actually experience something different. People absolutely have different skill sets and can be excellent in one area and be mediocre in others however virtually always the users looking for the any key or complaining a device wont turn on because the monitor is off are the people that are generally dumb as rocks.

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                                I'd just be scared of windows trying to clobber my nix partition.

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                                Havenโ€™t had issues since the 2000s. Use a separate boot partition, use UEFI, youโ€™re golden.

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                                • W [email protected]

                                  Android doesnt, my S8 can no longer be updated and many apps are beginning to no be supported. I love this phone, all the new ones are way too big.

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                                  It depends. When using Samsung then you on;ly get updates for the first two years. I' ve run a Fairphone and I received updates for 4 years.

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                                    But then the People wouldnt pay for it over and over again?

                                    People are way less willing to pay for updates than for whole new versions.

                                    Apple and companies using Android are selling hardware, not software like Microsoft.

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                                    Updates should be incorparated in the subscription of your software.
                                    True that Apple and companies using Android are selling hardware. But Microsoft is also selling hardware. At my work we use Microsoft Surface laptops and my son in law has a X-Box. They even start selling advertisements.

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                                      Sustainable products are not profitable products. Look at what happened to Tupperware.

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                                      True. But the real problem is that we want too much profit and the companies are getting to big. My guess is that if the tax plans are changed and we settle for less money, it will be much better for many things.
                                      It should be added that prices would then also have to be much lower

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