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With the Legion Go S, we can now directly compare performance between official builds of SteamOS and Windows

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  • flashback956@feddit.nlF [email protected]

    SteamOS is able to launch a desktop environment where you can do anything you want. It is just an OS like Windows, but better.

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    Cool, can you run video rendering software on it? How about some cli? Can you delete packages? Or even remove the french language?

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    • Z [email protected]

      SteamOS is a full Linux build, it's just a different distro like Fedora, Ubuntu, mint, etc, etc

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      Like a distro with certain bloat disabled to optimize for gaming?

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        Hopefully not a dumb question: If Vulkan runs on anything, assuming their game isn't a Windows (Xbox?) exclusive, why don't more people program their games to use Vulkan instead?

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        Because DirectX is more than a graphics API.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX

        A fair amount of what used to make DirectX an everything API has been deprecated, but if you are already using Windows stuff for networking and audio, then you may as well use the graphics APIs too.

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        • fubarberry@sopuli.xyzF [email protected]

          Source is this video:

          Windows Was The Problem All Along - Dave2D

          We could obviously compare performance between windows and steamOS before on the steam deck, or between windows and Bazzite on other handhelds. But this is the first time we have had official windows and SteamOS builds for the same hardware.

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          #153

          .

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          • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

            I disagree. Take Windows, remove the bloat, slap a game-focused GUI on it, call it XBOX and Bob's your uncle.

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            If Xbox Series S would have run all my Steam games, I'd have bought one in a heartbeat.

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            • fubarberry@sopuli.xyzF [email protected]

              Source is this video:

              Windows Was The Problem All Along - Dave2D

              We could obviously compare performance between windows and steamOS before on the steam deck, or between windows and Bazzite on other handhelds. But this is the first time we have had official windows and SteamOS builds for the same hardware.

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              #155

              That's interesting. But the second graph is designed to confuse.

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              • F [email protected]

                I’d love to know what windows figures would be like with a stripped down guts ripped out windows, such as revi.cc.

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                How does revi compare to AtlasOS?

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                • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

                  Proton is Wine plus DXVK and VKD3D, as well as a big pile of little tweaks and out of tree changes that Valve maintains to specifically maximize game compatibility and performance.

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                  It sounds a lot like what the GPU driver providers used to do (and probably still do, despite all DX12 and Vulkan's promises of making that unnecessary) on top of making the drivers.

                  And that is basically "fixing badly written games so they perform well on the hardware".

                  As far as I can tell, Intel has been using Proton's fixes DXVK to get their drivers working on older games on Windows

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                  • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                    How does revi compare to AtlasOS?

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                    Very similar. I preferred Revi in my testing last year as there was less added stuff and wasn’t as “gamers fuck yeah”

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                      Very similar. I preferred Revi in my testing last year as there was less added stuff and wasn’t as “gamers fuck yeah”

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                      I might check it out for my Windows VM then. Thanks.

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                      • Z [email protected]

                        That's interesting. But the second graph is designed to confuse.

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                        Why is it confusing? Maybe I’m confused, not sure.

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                          What do you mean? It's just steamos is arch linux with a fancy suit.

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                          Arch can be configured many different ways.

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                          • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

                            It sounds a lot like what the GPU driver providers used to do (and probably still do, despite all DX12 and Vulkan's promises of making that unnecessary) on top of making the drivers.

                            And that is basically "fixing badly written games so they perform well on the hardware".

                            As far as I can tell, Intel has been using Proton's fixes DXVK to get their drivers working on older games on Windows

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                            DXVK is not "Proton's fixes". It exists as a separate entity whose development Valve has helped fund and who Valve devs have directly contributed to.

                            Proton's fixes are out-of-tree tweaks to DXVK, Wine and VKD3D that, put together, make games work much more seamlessly and smoothly than they otherwise would.

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                            • samskara@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                              Why is it confusing? Maybe I’m confused, not sure.

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                              why is fps labeled with hours and minutes? what is "dead cells" and why is it also labeled hours and minutes?

                              edit wow i was even more confused about it than i thought. what a terrible graph.

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                                Why is it confusing? Maybe I’m confused, not sure.

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                                The Legion Go is on top and on the bottom, with the Deck in between. And the color scheme isn't helping.

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                                • K [email protected]

                                  I am a little curious how something like Ubuntu would do on one of these gaming handhelds. Steam OS is a nicer user experience but I always wonder if it also adds any significant optimization.

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                                  iirc the original SteamOS for the SteamBox was Debian-based (like Ubuntu), i think they switched it to Arch since it moves a bit faster and offers a bit better compatibility.

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                                  • omegalemmy@discuss.onlineO [email protected]

                                    Holy shit triple the hours

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                                    Finally an extra 3 1/2 hours of... dead cells? 3 more hours of... FPS? the hell is this graph?

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                                      why is fps labeled with hours and minutes? what is "dead cells" and why is it also labeled hours and minutes?

                                      edit wow i was even more confused about it than i thought. what a terrible graph.

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                                      The title is battery life, that’s why it’s hours and minutes. Dead Cells is a video game.

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                                      • samskara@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                                        The title is battery life, that’s why it’s hours and minutes. Dead Cells is a video game.

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                                        yeah it took me a while, it's an awful graph and i haven't had coffee yet

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                                          Cool, can you run video rendering software on it? How about some cli? Can you delete packages? Or even remove the french language?

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                                          yes, it's a desktop OS. it's literally arch linux. i have a friend who slaps the steamos recovery image on every pc now and just uses it as their go-to daily driver.

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