Trump imposes tariffs, sanctions on Colombia after it refuses deportation flights

[atzanteol@sh.itjust.works]

Guy just thinks he can bully entire countries to his will.

He leads the US. He was handed the most powerful military in the world and one of the most influencial economies.

He absolutely can bully whomever he wants.

[ledivin@lemmy.world]

Apparently Colombia and Mexico disagree, and they're not even particularly powerful. Sounds more like the US is all bark, at the moment.

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

Since WW2, when has the US ever fought anyone for Europe?

Korea, Vietnam, Libya, Iraq 1 and 2, Afghanistan, Syria. All US incursions. A number of them had European countries backing up the US. Even today it's the US giving Israel unwaivering support (when it really should be waivering) that's dragging NATO countries into a conflict it really doesn't want to be a part of.

Europe has backed the US again and again so that it wasn't seen as acting as unilaterally (even if it was).

The only European operations I can think of Bosnia and Serbia, both of which were NATO operations with multinational forces.

[blakenong@lemmings.world]

Ignore them, they’re a Trump supporter.

[gork@lemm.ee]

Coffee prices already suck, now they're gonna suck even more.

[cybersin@lemm.ee]

"Can" does not mean "should".

America has a long history of bullying Central and South America. The current situation is unfortunate, but not entirely surprising.

[zexks@lemmy.world]

Everyone needs to remember this is how the “Final Solution” started. They originally just wanted to deport everyone they didn’t like. Then other countries started saying No. so they came up with other ideas.

[grue@lemmy.world]

Korea, Libya, Iraq and Syria I will concede. However:

Are you not aware that the Vietnam War was directly precipitated by the First Indochina War, in which the French failed to maintain control of their colony and the US stepped in when they pulled out?

Are you not aware that the US initially got roped into intervening in Afghanistan by the British in the 1970s, continuing a British-Russian rivalry/series of proxy wars going all the way back to the "Great Game" in the 19th Century?

(Also, re: that previous Libya/Iraq/Syria concession: let's be honest, the whole current Middle East clusterfuck is the legacy of European colonialism, including shit like the Sykes-Picot Agreement and the various Allied-controlled protectorates formed from previous Axis colonies (e.g. Libya) after WWII. I'm conceding those points because I can't be bothered in a Lemmy comment to do the research to trace exactly how the US involvement was rooted in a need to clean up messes left by the British and French, but I'm pretty darn confident the link is there.)

[theacharnian@lemmy.ca]

For a while. Until the rest of the world decides to not subsidize US deficits any more by using the dollar as the reserve currency.

[blakenong@lemmings.world]

Im just not surprised by anything these days. Whatever is the worst thing I can think of happening is nearly always an underestimate.

The United States is just an embarrassment on every level.

[iapar@feddit.org]

I heard China hit the us with 75% tariff.

[blindfrog@lemmy.world]

Source?

I'm sorry; whatever search engines I've tried are f*cked and only give me articles about US tarrifs on other countries' exports. It's been ridiculous trying to find what I'm looking for.

[lemoinefairclough@sh.itjust.works]

It seems the specific problem was that military planes were being used instead of civilian planes:

That is why I returned the U.S. military planes that were carrying Colombian migrants... In civilian planes, without being treated like criminals, we will receive our fellow citizens.

That does make sense to me, since I'd feel less comfortable if a military plane was flying into my country, whereas I'd be more comfortable if a regular civilian flight was used instead. From the perspective of a Colombian, I would be concerned about how national security would be affected by giving permission for military planes to operate when they wouldn't otherwise have permission.

[hawlsera@lemm.ee]

Mass deportations are the prelude to death camps.

[nudenewt@lemm.ee]

This is the main cause for every country that refuses the migrants, who the heck would want militaty planes to enter their air space?

If he really wants to do this he'll send them over in civilian planes not military ones...

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

Yes, a lot of the areas are post European colonialism. Most of the world is post European colonialism, including the Americas. Vietnam wasn't fought for the French though. The French were expelled in the first Indochina war and the North and South Vietnamese had independence. The French lost and went home. The US never tried to re-establish French rule.

You might argue that the US fought in Vietnam for the South Vietnamese, to maintain their independence from the North. However I think we all know that the US fought in Vietnam to block Russia and China getting more influence in the area. It was a choice the US made for it's own reasons to do with the cold war.

Now, the US might feel that because nobody else had the military might to stand against "communism" they had no option but to get involved. They did it to protect their own interests though.

[etterra@discuss.online]

I wish somebody in the military had the spine needed to arrest this particular threat to our nation.

[oceansoap@lemmy.ml]

Mass deportations of legal citizens, sure. Nothing wrong with deporting illegal migrants.

If it was Americans illegally living in ,Colombia you'd be cheering for them to send the American back to the US.

[oceansoap@lemmy.ml]

Who were.... Legal citizens, yes? Deporting illegal migrants is not the same.

[oceansoap@lemmy.ml]

Lol, no they're not. Colombia caved within minutes