Trump imposes tariffs, sanctions on Colombia after it refuses deportation flights

[blakenong@lemmings.world]

Im just not surprised by anything these days. Whatever is the worst thing I can think of happening is nearly always an underestimate.

The United States is just an embarrassment on every level.

[iapar@feddit.org]

I heard China hit the us with 75% tariff.

[blindfrog@lemmy.world]

Source?

I'm sorry; whatever search engines I've tried are f*cked and only give me articles about US tarrifs on other countries' exports. It's been ridiculous trying to find what I'm looking for.

[lemoinefairclough@sh.itjust.works]

It seems the specific problem was that military planes were being used instead of civilian planes:

That is why I returned the U.S. military planes that were carrying Colombian migrants... In civilian planes, without being treated like criminals, we will receive our fellow citizens.

That does make sense to me, since I'd feel less comfortable if a military plane was flying into my country, whereas I'd be more comfortable if a regular civilian flight was used instead. From the perspective of a Colombian, I would be concerned about how national security would be affected by giving permission for military planes to operate when they wouldn't otherwise have permission.

[hawlsera@lemm.ee]

Mass deportations are the prelude to death camps.

[nudenewt@lemm.ee]

This is the main cause for every country that refuses the migrants, who the heck would want militaty planes to enter their air space?

If he really wants to do this he'll send them over in civilian planes not military ones...

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

Yes, a lot of the areas are post European colonialism. Most of the world is post European colonialism, including the Americas. Vietnam wasn't fought for the French though. The French were expelled in the first Indochina war and the North and South Vietnamese had independence. The French lost and went home. The US never tried to re-establish French rule.

You might argue that the US fought in Vietnam for the South Vietnamese, to maintain their independence from the North. However I think we all know that the US fought in Vietnam to block Russia and China getting more influence in the area. It was a choice the US made for it's own reasons to do with the cold war.

Now, the US might feel that because nobody else had the military might to stand against "communism" they had no option but to get involved. They did it to protect their own interests though.

[etterra@discuss.online]

I wish somebody in the military had the spine needed to arrest this particular threat to our nation.

[oceansoap@lemmy.ml]

Mass deportations of legal citizens, sure. Nothing wrong with deporting illegal migrants.

If it was Americans illegally living in ,Colombia you'd be cheering for them to send the American back to the US.

[oceansoap@lemmy.ml]

Who were.... Legal citizens, yes? Deporting illegal migrants is not the same.

[oceansoap@lemmy.ml]

Lol, no they're not. Colombia caved within minutes

[prettyflyforafatguy@feddit.uk]

Mass deportations of legal citizens, sure

you realize that's what he's already trying to do right?

That's what ending birthright citizenship is all about. Millions of people who are currently considered to be American citizens will have that stripped from them and then they are free to be deported

[techranger@infosec.pub]

A military coup d'etat?

[someone@lemmy.ca]

I'm admittedly not a genius when it comes to foreign exchange/international currency dynamics, but unless the Yuan became the reserve currency I think it would be a positive change for most of the world.

[duamerthrax@lemmy.world]

Jews weren't "legal citizens" in Nazi Germany. What is and isn't "legal" is entirely made up.

[charapaso@lemmy.world]

Unfortunately they've backed down already: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/26/world/americas/colombia-us-deportation-flights.html?unlocked_article_code=1.sU4.SJeu.KLeSKsinK61Z

[wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world]

Do you know that the Jewish population in Germany were citizens? And then Hitler took their citizenship away. Just like they used to have rights, until they didn't. Besides, just because something's legal, doesn't make it right. What's legal and what's not can change in the blink of an eye.

[wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world]

No. Not after all their rights and their citizenship were taken away.

See that's the thing a lot of people don't understand. Fascists often use the law and the system to LEGALLY implement all their horrific shit. Just because something is the law does not make it right. Laws can be changed, thus we shouldn't use them as an argument for what is and isn't right.

Let's just imagine for a moment that tomorrow Trump and his little friends push through some law that allows them to strip every person with Swedish ancestry (for example) of their citizenship. Suddenly they could be deported, sure. And it would all be legal. Would you think it was right?

Your government is already talking about taking away birthright citizenship. And the GOP has shown us they are perfectly happy stripping at the very least some people of some of their rights already. Are you telling me you don't think it could get any worse?

[revelrous@sopuli.xyz]

'cept that whole bit when he rips up asylum law and tries to EO away birthright citizenship?

[bradleyuffner@lemmy.world]

You realize you just defended death camps for non-citizens?