Mandatory jail term for Nazi salute under new hate crime rules in Australia

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If I understand you correctly, you are saying that you think the current government (USA) is fascist. If so, would you mind describing exactly why you think that? Do note that I'm not disputing your claim — I'm simply curious what your rationale is.

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Yes, I'm famous for not understanding humor.

Everyone on Lemmy knows me as a 100% humorless person.

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I am not mischaracterizing anything. I am asking you to give an example of what you're talking about.

Clearly you can't. You apparently don't understand what autism is.

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Sorry... which are you saying, that Israel's behavior forces people to make Nazi salutes when they otherwise wouldn't or that everyone who makes Nazi salutes is secretly an Israeli operative?

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You can burn a cross on a sidewalk in front of someone's house. That is not trespassing or vandalism or arson and is exactly how the KKK has gotten away with it in the past.

And yes, I do want them to be locked up for that. You are either okay with it or didn't even consider the possibility that a sidewalk is a public space.

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I think it should be legal to do exactly one free punch on anyone who does a nazi salute.

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There was a lot more going on in Germany leading up to WW2.

Neo-nazis don't have to deal with the Treaty of Versailles in 2025, for example.

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American fascism is unique because it solely exists to distract the working class from their exploitation by the ruling class.

In other words, it's cool to be a useful idiot because that's what makes rich people richer the fastest.

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It's crazy watching the left throw freedom of speech under the bus as soon as people start saying things they don't like.

Really makes me proud not to consider myself a liberal at this point. Ya'll are nuts.

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Question for everyone supporting this: do you think saying women can't think for themselves should be classified as hate speech?

Asking for a friend.

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No, I'm saying that Israel runs psyops.

You know what is actual violence? Punching people in the face. Everyone has the potential to become violent. That doesn't mean you can go around punching everyone in the face. Go ask the cops they'll help explain it to you if you need help understanding the concept.

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Go ask the cops they’ll help explain it to you if you need help understanding the concept.

...and the authoritarian emerges from their shell.

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That's a fair point. I didn't really post it thinking "this anecdote supports this law". I just think it's worth remembering the insidious manner in which these organisations encroach on society.

Obviously laws are intended to be policed through governmental force, but they're also a communication regarding what a society considers acceptable.

For example, if a society legislates that the age of consent is 16, then people being charged with statutory rape is only a small part of the impact of that law. In Australia we literally have police giving presentations in schools to ensure that teenagers are aware of the laws that exist to protect them, and how something that might seem innocent to a 15 year old (like sending your crush a photo of your boobs or something), can have dire consequences. In summary, the existence of the law is society standing together and sending a very clear message that some behaviors are unacceptable, a formalisation of social intolerance if you will.

Fascist organisations have been successfully recruiting, and it seems like they're gaining momentum. Sure some bar might be able to keep skin heads out, but "soft" social intolerance very obviously is inadequate.

The thing is, these groups don't start with hatred right off the bat. A normal kid might see a fascist organisation as some kind of boys club. Cool iconography, loyalty, camaraderie, whats not to like? The existence of this law will ensure that people are aware of the depravity of this ideology and reduce their ability to seduce recruits by deception.

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Because if you don't see the nazis, then it's OK that they're nazis

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Mandatory jail term for Nazi salute under new hate crime rules in Australia