Proton's very biased article on Deepseek

[febra@lemmy.world]

Tutamail is a great email provider that takes security very seriously. Switched a few days ago and I'm very happy.

[evotech@lemmy.world]

This focuses mostly on the app though, which is #1 on the app stores atm

We know it's censored to comply with Chinese authorities, just not how much. It's probably trained on some fairly heavy propaganda.

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

I certainly think it's cool, but the further you stray from the beaten path, the more newly janky it gets. I'm sure there's a good workflow here, it'll just take some time to find it.

[lemmus@szmer.info]

They are absolutely right! Most people don't give a fuck about hosting their own AI, they just download "Deepsneak" and chat..and it is unfortunately even worse than "ClosedAI", cuz they are based in China. Thats why I hope Duckduckgo will host deepseek on their servers (as it is very lightweight in resources, yes?), then we will all benefit from it.

[mitm0@lemmy.world]

Ok correction noted, It still makes DeepSeek look better

[heavydust@sh.itjust.works]

When the CEO praises Trump, says China bad because China while hiding that occidental AIs have the same kind of censorship, that’s hypocrisy.

[heavydust@sh.itjust.works]

Billionaires are really pissed about it, I’m happy.

[ulrich@feddit.org]

failing to make it clear that the reason people love Deepseek is that you can download and it run it securely on any of your own private devices or servers

That's not why. Almost no one is going to do that. That's why they didn't mention it.

[rumba@lemmy.zip]

You should try the comparison between the larger models and the distilled models yourself before you make judgment. I suspect you're going to be surprised by the output.

All of the models are basically generating possible outcomes based on noise. So if you ask it the same model the same question five different times and five different sessions you're going to get five different variations on an answer.

You will find that an x out of five score between models is not that significantly different.

For certain cases larger models are advantageous. If you need a model to return a substantial amount of content to you. If you're asking it to write you a chapter story. Larger models will definitely give you better output and better variation.

But if you're asking you to help you with a piece of code or explain some historical event to you, The average 14B model that will fit on any computer with a video card will give you a perfectly serviceable answer.

[asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev]

Yet not great from a privacy perspective. They don't even allow third party email apps.

[ulrich@feddit.org]

The article goes into great detail about how it's different from OpenAI so, no.

[fuzzydog@lemmy.world]

Serious question, how does them being based in China make them worse? I'd much rather have a foreign intelligence agency collect data on me than one in the country in which I live. It's not like I'd get extradited to China.

[fuzzydog@lemmy.world]

You don't think ChatGPT reflects western propaganda?

[evotech@lemmy.world]

Probably, but that's not the new thing

[evotech@lemmy.world]

He did not praise trump though

[ulrich@feddit.org]

hiding that occidental AIs have the same kind of censorship

This is the second sentence in the article:

AI chat apps like ChatGPT collect user data, filter responses, and make content moderation decisions that are not always transparent.

They go into great deal about how they actually do not have the same kind of censorship. You should try reading the article before commenting on it.