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RFK Jr.’s FDA chief says diabetics should take cooking classes instead of insulin

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  • S [email protected]

    They say this works for some, not all individuals.

    That could be a matter of compliance, obesity, or other factors (i.e. not diet alone).

    Regardless, if the majority of people could be helped with lifestyle intervention, then that should be the priority over pharmacological treatment.

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    Naw, one size fits most is a horrible way to practice medicine. All treatments should be geared to the individuals situation and needs.

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      So many factors involved in controlling A1C. Not just your diet but lifestyle, exercise, access to health care and healthy inexpensive food.

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      • D [email protected]

        Obviously diabetics still need medical care.

        You late for your job at the circus?

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        Oh you thought I was being serious. Give it another try.

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          depends on how far along typ1 diabetes damages the iselt cells in the pancreas. the diet most likely wont work if you cant produce insulin anymore, especially you can get unreliable walmart reliant otc isulin. theres a slow decline insulin production as your islet beta cells get destroyed.

          one of the rare ways around it if someone is on immunosuppressants all the time from organ transplant.

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            People will die because of these fuck holes.

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            Killing people is a core tenet of the Republican party.

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            • N [email protected]

              There's no need to be fair here. Insulin is absolutely essential for diabetics, and the head of the FDA trying to proclaim that cooking classes are a viable alternative is nonsense. For type 1 diabetics, no amount of healthy eating is going to get their body to produce insulin. For type 2 diabetics, it is possible to eventually get to a point where you can be stable without insulin, but not for everybody and not right away. Insulin treatment is the only way to survive with diabetes for an extended period of time, and the focus needs to be on ensuring that insulin is both affordable and accessible.

              Yes, there are things to improve in our food supply, but don't let that distract from how egregiously insane his comments are about diabetes.

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              This is the truth, right here.

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              • J [email protected]

                Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her.

                Part of her plan would have banned Cheerios in schools because of added salt. That was one of the things getting pushback.

                Her initiative to get added sugars listed on nutrition labels had very broad support.

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                You guys have chips in schools? Bruh...

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                  Type I and II diabetes (mellitus) are different diseases and insulin use isn’t simple enough that diet recommendations (which every diagnosed diabetic probably already knows) are a magical missing piece for RFK Jr.

                  People with type I are deficient in insulin and it’s part of treating the disease right away. Insulin is used for people with type II, who aren’t deficient but can’t use insulin well, later in the disease progression if other treatments are no longer effective.

                  If a person with type II diabetes is on insulin, diet was probably treatment number one and has probably already failed or isn’t effective enough.

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                  Good point. Some people are born with diabetes. Diabetes-like symptoms can also appear due to Cancer treatment. I think a diet can reduce insulin intake, but I don't think it'll full on make it obsolete.

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                  • M [email protected]

                    His blood sugar is high! Quickly!

                    drags his comatose body to the nearest cooking class

                    There we go!

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                    Not to be pedantic, but high blood sugar symptoms are more like lethargy, constant thirst, frequent urination, irritability, and at a certain point, straight to coma as the blood turns too acidic (DKA). Nothing as exciting as seizures in there.

                    Only because having been around a few people who were diagnosed as adults, and these very basic symptoms were overlooked, so the more people aware of them, hopefully the less people that need to visit the ICU for DKA

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                      To be fair, our western diet of mainly cheap non-nutritive carbs suck. America needs desperately to change their diet but when Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her. JFK jr, on the other hand is totally nuts.
                      It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon's cabinet.

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                      You do know there are different types of diabetes, right? And a lot of different things that can lead to diabetes?

                      Some people do get there, in part, due to poor diet, but not everyone.

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                        You guys have chips in schools? Bruh...

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                        Cheerios are a breakfast cereal. Generally considered a relatively healthy one due to their lack of added sugars.

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                        • vandals_handle@lemmy.worldV [email protected]

                          Naw, one size fits most is a horrible way to practice medicine. All treatments should be geared to the individuals situation and needs.

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                          Naw, one size fits most is a horrible way to practice medicine.

                          Um, as human beings, we need a health-promoting lifestyle above all else. Medication should come a long way off from lifestyle intervention for most illnesses, and only as an adjunct to a healthful lifestyle.

                          The individual protocols can differ, but you aren't going to make anyone well if you aren't focusing on the foundations of health: exercise, sleep, nutrition, stress management.

                          Type-2 diabetes is considered a lifestyle-related illness for a reason. Treating it with meds first is such a "Big Pharma" way of doing things, and it's so harmful.

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                            Challenge Accepted.

                            Simpsons TV show still where Lisa is holding a book seemingly titled “How to cook humans”

                            We’ll get insurers and Medicaid to fully cover diabetes supplies in no time.

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                            How many cooked billionaires does it take to satisfy the proletariat?

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                              Not to be pedantic, but high blood sugar symptoms are more like lethargy, constant thirst, frequent urination, irritability, and at a certain point, straight to coma as the blood turns too acidic (DKA). Nothing as exciting as seizures in there.

                              Only because having been around a few people who were diagnosed as adults, and these very basic symptoms were overlooked, so the more people aware of them, hopefully the less people that need to visit the ICU for DKA

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                              Thanks! Fixed

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                              • S [email protected]

                                Is a total ban on diabetes medicine on the way? This is an effort to kill anyone who isn't young and fit.

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                                This is an effort to kill anyone who isn't young and fit.

                                Or also chronically ill. I'm (relatively) young and very fit, but I'm also type 1 and require insulin to live. It's eugenics, plain and simple.

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                                  Isn't that not how diabetes works?

                                  I'm an idiot about biology anything, let alone food and drugs, but I know that.

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                                    Considering that the GOP wants to kill SNAP, it is pretty clear that RFK wants his hands bloodied.

                                    This guy, like the rest of that lot, are butchers of the innocent and trusting.

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                                    • S [email protected]

                                      Naw, one size fits most is a horrible way to practice medicine.

                                      Um, as human beings, we need a health-promoting lifestyle above all else. Medication should come a long way off from lifestyle intervention for most illnesses, and only as an adjunct to a healthful lifestyle.

                                      The individual protocols can differ, but you aren't going to make anyone well if you aren't focusing on the foundations of health: exercise, sleep, nutrition, stress management.

                                      Type-2 diabetes is considered a lifestyle-related illness for a reason. Treating it with meds first is such a "Big Pharma" way of doing things, and it's so harmful.

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                                      Without medication some people will die, others will be permanently disabled. No amount of lifestyle changes will help them with out medication.

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                                        Hey Marty! Every legal resident in the USA should have the same health insurance as you, dumbfuck. That would solve a lot of problems in 3rd World USA.

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                                          How many cooked billionaires does it take to satisfy the proletariat?

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                                          As many as it takes.

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