UK citizens say it is more important to support Ukraine than to maintain good relations with US, survey shows
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What a pointless take on the situation. You’ve added nothing of value.
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Am American, 1000% agree.
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American. Ashamed to say that i briefly thought, "maybe zelenaky can save us" - like he doesn't have enough going on! We desperately need for someone strong and charismatic to stand up to orange Jesus!
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Even if you are right, there's a huge difference between what Trump is asking, and what normal presidents ask of you to be friends.
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American here: no objections whatsoever. This is the correct answer. Our government is a bag of dicks, and a lot of us hate it too.
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Half of the voters voted for Trump, so no thanks, I don't want to have good relations with the US. I want to isolate them as much as possible.
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Europeans are still clinging to the delusion that Trump is an aberration.
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Confirmed. British people are low information voters and easily manipulated. See also voting for Boris Johnson
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I wouldn't say it's just more important, I'd say it's a moral imperative to support Ukraine's fight for it's sovereign land over keeping buddy-buddy with a government running rampant with corruption and Russian puppetry
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They're threatening daily to take Canada by whatever means necessary. That's not an ally, that's a threat. Canada needs to protect itself, and the British people are quite right to back Ukraine. Trump is working with Putin to hand Ukraine to Russia. Russia will not stop its ambitions there and it is a threat to all of Europe.
Yesterday Trump threatened to pull US troops out of Europe if the EU did not agree to his and Putin's plan for Ukraine. It's a very clear threat: give Ukraine to Russia or we give you to Russia. Of course the USA in its current state would not defend Europe anyway. To me it looks like the plan is for Trump to seize Canada, Greenland, Panama, etc., while Putin grabs as much of Europe as he can.
Under these conditions what is NATO? Trump is deliberately destroying it.
So the UK, Canada and Europe need to stand firm against the alliance of the USA, Russia and those European countries that have gone over to fascism. The very existence of our countries is at stake.
And watch out for the far right at home, in the UK, Canada and Europe. Their loyalties do not lie with their countries, and they're being bankrolled and supported by powerful people internationally.
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Not to mention that once Russia is done with Ukraine they're not going to stop. Defending Ukraine is defending Europe.
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as an american we want good government but it's the billionaire oligarchs who are ruining it
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We had that chance. We picked Biden instead. Now it's "find out" time.
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This account (that you responded to) was created a mere few hours ago. It might even have been created purely to troll people, possibly by someone who has gotten used to being banned using a recognizable account name.
On PieFed I find it very helpful to see an icon next to people's names indicating brand-new accounts. Some Lemmy apps can do that as well (I switched over to Voyager here to see if it would, but nope, at least not by default). Anyway I wanted to point out that it is a very useful feature, for exactly such scenarios as this!
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Agreed. And hopefully our man Kier can stop cosplaying long enough to follow through on more military support.
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Under these conditions what is NATO?
Already-preexisting integration of most EU armies (and the rest aren't completely out of the loop) as well as Canada Turkey, Norway, and Iceland.
The long and short of it is if the US should bail out of NATO what is left is an absolute behemoth of a force with severe shortcomings in power projection and strategic airlift capacity. The latter only until Ukraine is admitted they have Antonov. Not sure whether we want much power projection but the lift capacity is a shortfall. On the upside we have more than enough stealth subs to stop others from projecting with aircraft carriers.
From the US side, strategically, this is just a self-inflicted wound: There's a couple of US soldiers in Europe as part of tripwire forces, relevant politically but not in combat terms, the rest is there to project force into the middle east. They'd be giving that up, I wonder what Israel thinks of that. The US would not have been capable to do Iraq or Afghanistan without European bases.
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Half of the people who voted*
Trump got about the same number of votes this time as he did in the previous election (marginally less, I believe).
It makes little difference to point out, but it's good to remember that the Dems are a bunch of feckless corporate shills who lost the support of their voters, and about a third to half the country simply doesn't vote.
Trump is a symptom and the end result of deeply systemic and cultural issues here, and as an American, I hope you guys make it hurt. Maybe then we'll wake up to the problems here. I doubt it, but at least the economic collapse here will hopefully spare the rest of the world from a dementia patient with daddy Putin's leash on his collar swinging the biggest military budget in the world around like he's got something to compensate for.
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Exactly. If anyone thinks Russia will stop at Ukraine, they're a fool
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17hr account throwing around shit.
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He kinda is though. There aren't many presidents that run on a platform of gutting literally everything that can be gutted.
