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As top Trump aides sent texts on Signal, flight data show a member of the group chat was in Russia

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  • atheartengineer@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

    Right, those shouldn't be conflated (the protocols vs the phone/persons security properties).I think anyone actively targeted by a major govt power is probably fucked though. Pegasus has taught us that, so while signal is probably a pretty secure protocol, phones definitely have a lot of vulnerabilities.

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    Indeed. So are digital hygiene practices.

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    • einkorn@feddit.orgE [email protected]

      OK, my time to pick nits: There is a clear and present threat. China, Russia and certainly the US as well have teams of cryptographers looking at software such as Signal and analysing every update and change made in order to spot potential openings. The threat towards Signal however is comparatively small because there are tens if not hundreds of times as many people checking the code as well and reporting back to Signal because of its Open-source nature.

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      As far as I'm aware the encryption can't really be broken given the current amount of compute. Is anyone aware of what potential vulnerabilities there could be to the Signal protocol outside of brute forcing? How hard is it to crack a private public key exchange?

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      • einkorn@feddit.orgE [email protected]

        OK, my time to pick nits: There is a clear and present threat. China, Russia and certainly the US as well have teams of cryptographers looking at software such as Signal and analysing every update and change made in order to spot potential openings. The threat towards Signal however is comparatively small because there are tens if not hundreds of times as many people checking the code as well and reporting back to Signal because of its Open-source nature.

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        That's exactly my point. I work in security, specifically versus threat actors. I don't typically deal with State actors, but on occasion I do. Those are the real problem.

        You're writing the concerns, suggestions, and warnings I would give.

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        • sexualpolytope@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

          I think it's disingenuous to try to suggest that communists have anything to do with it. It's purely an oligarchical shithole.

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          Putin was KGB. The fact that the sleeper argent Krasnov awoke 38 years after his recruitment is testament to the Soviet program's effectiveness.

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          • palerider@feddit.ukP [email protected]

            No.

            Graham Fraser
            Technology reporter

            Signal, compared with other messaging apps, has added security features to protect the privacy of its users.

            Conversations on the app are end-to-end encrypted, which means they can only be read by the recipients. Signal can’t even read what has been sent.

            But security is only as good as the person using it.

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            Damage control look up their original articles on trump.

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            • M [email protected]

              It also goes to show that Signal may actually be worth its salt in regards to security.

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              You use Signal to avoid government surveillance.

              I use Signal to avoid government accountability.

              We are not the same.

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                It looks like you're using an ad blocker.

                Well, can't read that website.

                Plasters some big dead thing from a website called "getadmiral.com" over the page that I can't remove.

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                  Jesus fucking Russian assets...

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                    The entire Government of Putin is a huge cluster fuck. Send them all to fucking Moscow, one-way.

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                      Sounds like a bunch of traitors.

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                      Are you just figuring that out now? Attacking all its allies is what did it for me.

                      The US is a captured state now, and there are only a few ways out; voting is not one of them.

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                      • obinice@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

                        It looks like you're using an ad blocker.

                        Well, can't read that website.

                        Plasters some big dead thing from a website called "getadmiral.com" over the page that I can't remove.

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                        I'm not sure if this helps, but I use uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger in Firefox and can read it.

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                        • N [email protected]

                          Lol I wear my ban with pride. All you have to do is go over there and use the word 'tankie'. They really don't like that word for some reason.

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                          And yet the worst of them link to tankie.tube videos. Fuggin.... I dunno.

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                            These fucking fools, these incompetent baboons. Gods damn the whole lot of 'em.

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                              It also goes to show that Signal may actually be worth its salt in regards to security.

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                              Doesn't matter if the phone is rooted.

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                                Literally zero chance they weren't monitoring his phone while he was in the country.

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                                  Are you just figuring that out now? Attacking all its allies is what did it for me.

                                  The US is a captured state now, and there are only a few ways out; voting is not one of them.

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                                  Welcome to the party pal, most of us knew it was traitor town when "Russia if your listening" was said on national TV.

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                                    Literally zero chance they weren't monitoring his phone while he was in the country.

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                                    Why monitor what he went there to inform them about?

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                                      Why monitor what he went there to inform them about?

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                                      *receive orders about

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                                      • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                        Hmm yes, how dare I pushback against authoritarian misinformation, propaganda, censorship and toxicity. I do what I can within my power to prevent the Lemmy-verse from garnering a rep outside for being "That Tankie Place" or worse, Voat 2.0

                                        I've already seen it on Reddit and testimonials here (from those that actually tried to give it another shot, who knows how many won't ever come back) "I tried that Lemmy place, but it was just a bunch of tankies" is not a pleasant comment to read outside the Lemmy-verse

                                        What I've documented on [email protected] is but a mere fraction of the crap they pull and focused on just .ml

                                        Btw, tankies are authoritarian "communists"

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                                        Right. And I'm on board with that and that's not what I am saying. If I mention "Russia bad" in a thread, without any ml presence in the whole post, I don't expect someone to derail my thread with their anti-ml agenda. Why not keep it there where it's relevant: an actual ml poster excusing Russia's behaviour?

                                        Or, as you do, in your welcome messages to new users.

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                                        • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                          Then this is for you!

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                                          I need to acquire mine at some point

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