Mozilla Thunderbird Challenges Gmail With Its Own Email Service
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I'm listening...
But how is a small non-profit going to afford a free email service? Ads in every email?
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You have always been able to use your own domain email with Thunderbird. The big news here is the fact that they are launching not only a web based mail service a la Thunderbird but also providing an email server for addresses of [yourchosenname]@thundermail.com. which is gonna be pretty great.
wrote 18 days ago last edited byYeah, but the Thunderbird client... ain't great.
And yes, I'm a Linux nerd since 2003. Thunderbird's client sucks.
That said, I hope this is successful.
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Yeah, but the Thunderbird client... ain't great.
And yes, I'm a Linux nerd since 2003. Thunderbird's client sucks.
That said, I hope this is successful.
wrote 18 days ago last edited byWhat client do you recommend instead?
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What client do you recommend instead?
wrote 18 days ago last edited byFor Linux, I can't think of another user side client. I use web based.
So, I'm happy to see Mozilla get into that arena.
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Yeah, but the Thunderbird client... ain't great.
And yes, I'm a Linux nerd since 2003. Thunderbird's client sucks.
That said, I hope this is successful.
wrote 18 days ago last edited byWhats wrong with the thunderbird client.
Even when I was on windows back on XP I used it. Never had a problem with it or its functionality, personally.
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Whats wrong with the thunderbird client.
Even when I was on windows back on XP I used it. Never had a problem with it or its functionality, personally.
wrote 18 days ago last edited byNerds like us can figure it out.
But it's hardly user friendly. I'm not going to get into the minutiae, but Joe Blow could probably get it to fetch, and send, but the user interface options like font size, etc., blows. Typical nerd "It's good enough for me, RTFM, losers."
And I'm too old to fuck with things for fun. I want it to just work, and I'm not paying Apple prices for that, or supporting Microsoft's eventual SaaS subscription model, which WILL eventually happen.
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welp I signed up for the waitlist.
I'll use it for a disposable email at first, and if it endures and does well I'll move my main shit off to it.
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Thunderbird Pro will apparently be:
This email thing plus Thunderbird Send (which is basically https://send.vis.ee/), Thunderbird Appointment - a scheduling tool and Thunderbird Assist, which is:
"...at least for now, being cautiously labeled as “an experiment” that will allow users to take advantage of AI features within their email. However, the goal is to be lightweight enough that the language models can be run locally on a user’s PC in the interest of privacy. This service is being developed in partnership with Flower AI, which leverages Nvidia’s confidential compute to provide private remote processing in the event a user’s PC isn’t powerful enough. Sipes emphasizes that any remote processing features attached to Thunderbird Assist will always be optional, in the interest of ensuring complete user privacy."
So AI shit that nobody asked for or wants.
wrote 18 days ago last edited byThis sounds like proton except I haven’t heard a thing about cost or encryption which leads me to believe you will pay with your data and there will be no encryption.
Proton is the bare minimum for email services. Email should be fully redone at its core.
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Out of all the articles and the official release announcement, you could share, you shared forbes which violate people privacy.
Why?
wrote 18 days ago last edited byI went looking for something official but couldn't find it.
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Yeah, but the Thunderbird client... ain't great.
And yes, I'm a Linux nerd since 2003. Thunderbird's client sucks.
That said, I hope this is successful.
wrote 18 days ago last edited byI've been using Thunderbird for email for years. I use it with some SMTP servers on shared hosting platforms, a yahoo account and a few gmail accounts - one with calendars. I don't have any problems with it. Runs stable, doesn't crash or do weird things. My only complaint would be search is a little clunky, but it works.
I had to use Outlook client for year at another job and that client was hot garbage.
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I'd consider it. If they host things outside of the US/start moving operations overseas, it'd be a lot more interesting. I sub to Proton for email, VPN, and drive support. Still hoping someday for proper Linux drive support so Mozilla/Thunderbird can target that
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If they're user funded, their incentives are fundamentally different from Google's. It makes no sense to enshittify like Google does. It's a different choice, even if it's not the choice you wanted.
wrote 18 days ago last edited bydifferent, yes. but by how much and will it be different in ways that truly matter
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I've been using Thunderbird for email for years. I use it with some SMTP servers on shared hosting platforms, a yahoo account and a few gmail accounts - one with calendars. I don't have any problems with it. Runs stable, doesn't crash or do weird things. My only complaint would be search is a little clunky, but it works.
I had to use Outlook client for year at another job and that client was hot garbage.
wrote 18 days ago last edited byand it does RSS
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Sounded great until the "assist" ai feature. I friggin hate Gemini in gmail so any other kind of ai is an automatic nogo for me
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I should donate again. As someone who still depends on gmail, I keep forgetting how annoying it was to get ads every time I refreshed my inbox, before I switched to their app. Glad things seem to be working out.
wrote 18 days ago last edited byIt is extremely easy to switch email providers these days. I'd suggest start by setting up a forwarded mail box between Gmail and whatever new mail provider you choose. Then slowly but surely start using the new email address instead of Gmail and change the most important accounts to the new one.
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Tbh because it was the one shared on Reddit. Though if you have the right browser extensions when I wouldn't worry about it too much.
wrote 18 days ago last edited byUpvoted for honesty lol.
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I'm listening...
But how is a small non-profit going to afford a free email service? Ads in every email?
wrote 18 days ago last edited byBased on what I've seen in their forums it will be a paid service. I think it will be free at first for beta testers but I assume they are targeting people who currently use services like Proton.
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Based on what I've seen in their forums it will be a paid service. I think it will be free at first for beta testers but I assume they are targeting people who currently use services like Proton.
wrote 18 days ago last edited byThanks for the info.
But I think they'll still need an ad driven free version to gain acceptance.
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What client do you recommend instead?
wrote 18 days ago last edited byDepends what you're after. I'm a Thunderbird user, but if user friendliness is the aim then Geary is quite good.
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Nerds like us can figure it out.
But it's hardly user friendly. I'm not going to get into the minutiae, but Joe Blow could probably get it to fetch, and send, but the user interface options like font size, etc., blows. Typical nerd "It's good enough for me, RTFM, losers."
And I'm too old to fuck with things for fun. I want it to just work, and I'm not paying Apple prices for that, or supporting Microsoft's eventual SaaS subscription model, which WILL eventually happen.
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I mean.. It doesnt exactly take being hackerman, master of all hackermans to open a dropdown menu, bro.