How good is /e/ privacy based LineageOS fork?

[asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev]

iOS second? What a joke.

[daytonah@lemmy.ml]

What phone do you want to flash on? Is it in this list? https://doc.e.foundation/devices

[tuxenthusiast@sopuli.xyz]

Does your phone support anything else? LOS, Calyx, etc

Nein

[sitd@lemy.lol]

root allows system-wide adblocking. thus more privacy, not less privacy

[psyhackological@lemmy.ml]

Yeah I would put it #1.

::: spoiler Why?
When a mobile hardware is only from Apple.
:::

[imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Root also adds massive attack surface which easily outweighs those benefits. Not to mention non rooted DNS solutions provide a similar benefit.

[imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Sorry its true.

[asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev]

I'm pretty sure you implied that the ranking was based on security and privacy. I don't see the privacy benefits of using iOS over a custom privacy OS.

[spider89@lemm.ee]

Security != Privacy

[imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

That's idiotic. Your data being insecure is inherently not private.

[imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Do your research then. I'm not here to hand hold you through this.

Privacyguides.org is a great place to start for beginners.

Their forum is a much more informed community then what you will find here or god forbid r/privacy

[sitd@lemy.lol]

Windows is rooted by design, and that's completely fine by everyone and their dog

[imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Lol nobody is calling windows secure or private. Nobody even mentioned it.

[chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de]

/e/ greatly reduces security vs. AOSP via added attack surface, weakened security model and slow patches.

https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

https://privsec.dev/posts/android/choosing-your-android-based-operating-system/

[luffy879@lemmy.ml]

Thats still better than using /e/. Just download the one without MicroG

[skarn@discuss.tchncs.de]

That seems like an overly black and white position over something that can be either quite valid or entirely nonsense depending on the situation and/or threat model.

[skarn@discuss.tchncs.de]

I have read this several times, and still have no clue what you're trying to say.

[imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Something's are just more secure and private then others. That's just a fact.

Now whether your threat model requires it, is can be much less black and white.

[skarn@discuss.tchncs.de]

GrapheneOS wins, but whether iOS is more private than CalyxOS or /e/OS I think is very gray, and depends on the threat model, and on most devices they are going to be a significant improvement in privacy, and often security, over stock Android.

Since my threat model includes mainly surveillance capitalism (and no evil maids or targeted attacks) I don't particularly feel like trusting a big tech that's running their own targeted advertisement system.

[imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Personally I think if you look at what privacy features CalyxOS actually offers or the read reviews from someone like kuketz and you realize its pretty lacking in both privacy and security.

I understand your issues with Apple but OTOH I think their offerings of a private relay, RCS messaging by default, properly implemented sandboxing are objectively better features then what most android operating systems can offer. They also are much more reliable in terms of security updates.