How good is /e/ privacy based LineageOS fork?
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If OP was trying to secure themselves against interest from conventional state actor like a large intelligence service, I'd say they probably need to throw their phone in a woodchipper and start hitchhiking to the nearest professional spy training program.
More realistic concerns that an ordinary person probably has are casual mass surveillance and local police fuckery. Random AOSP Roms are not sufficient to handle either of those threats.
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They're actually pretty good at protecting you from casual mass surveillance as long as you don't do anything stupid with them, that was the whole point of my post. It's just not profitable to spy on you if they have to bother to put any effort into it.
I also think you're overestimating the capabilities of most local police. When I said state level actors I wasn't just talking about the NSA. Smaller countries, actual US states, or even some big cities would be included there, but your local small town police department wouldn't even know where to start. If you plan on personally pissing off any of those bigger police agencies then you should really just be assuming no phone is safe. Otherwise you're not likely to run into anyone that even knows what de-googled android is, let alone how to get into it.
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Our local PD literally have access to stingrays, cellbrite/Pegasus (I don't actually know which one they pay for) and military weaponry. In the suburbs, they have armored vehicles as well (tanks and APCs, not armored swat trucks).
Obviously it varies by where you live because different departments will have different levels of funding and will ask for different toys from the feds, but you'd be surprised how comically over equipped many PDs are.
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Hard truth: outside of GrapheneOS there is very little security and privacy gains from a custom Android OS over stock.
From best to worst:
Graphene OS
iOS
Stock Android / non rooted custom OS
Branded stock android
Rooted phones of any type
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Well, it's certainly true that it varies by where you are, but I'm pretty sure Graphene isn't going to protect you from an APC any better than /e/OS, and the county sheriff where I live wouldn't know a stingray from an Xbox, but maybe I just live too far out into the middle of nowhere to be typical.
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iOS second? What a joke.
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What phone do you want to flash on? Is it in this list? https://doc.e.foundation/devices
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Does your phone support anything else? LOS, Calyx, etc
Nein
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root allows system-wide adblocking. thus more privacy, not less privacy
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Yeah I would put it #1.
::: spoiler Why?
When a mobile hardware is only from Apple.
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Root also adds massive attack surface which easily outweighs those benefits. Not to mention non rooted DNS solutions provide a similar benefit.
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Sorry its true.
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I'm pretty sure you implied that the ranking was based on security and privacy. I don't see the privacy benefits of using iOS over a custom privacy OS.
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Security != Privacy
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That's idiotic. Your data being insecure is inherently not private.
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Do your research then. I'm not here to hand hold you through this.
Privacyguides.org is a great place to start for beginners.
Their forum is a much more informed community then what you will find here or god forbid r/privacy
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Windows is rooted by design, and that's completely fine by everyone and their dog
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Lol nobody is calling windows secure or private. Nobody even mentioned it.
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/e/ greatly reduces security vs. AOSP via added attack surface, weakened security model and slow patches.
https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm
https://privsec.dev/posts/android/choosing-your-android-based-operating-system/
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Thats still better than using /e/. Just download the one without MicroG