Germany decides to leave history in the past and prepare for war
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Leftist parties in my small country in Western Europe are mainly advocating for more diplomacy.
They're generally on board with the idea that NATO expanded too much eastwards, undoing a promise made after the fall of the USSR. So they seem to view Russian attacks on Georgia, Crimea and now the rest of Ukraine as a logical consequence. With enough diplomatic maneuvering, they believe the situation can be resolved in a peaceful manner.
wrote 12 days ago last edited byHere's my perspective as a non-European watching this shitshow unfold: That's fucking stupid. I mean NATO is a defensive alliance so what the shit?
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Here's my perspective as a non-European watching this shitshow unfold: That's fucking stupid. I mean NATO is a defensive alliance so what the shit?
wrote 12 days ago last edited byThe parties I talk about are not a fan of NATO, let that be clear. NATO has multiple authoritarian regimes under its wings, not only Trump but also Erdogan and Orban. Meloni's Italy is not too far off either, so I suppose that makes it hard for leftist parties to get behind it.
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I understand Russia's reasoning, but without punching power we are at mercy of those who have it. Russia went from a insignificant poor country with nukes in the 90s back to main player worldwide today, mainly by weakening the other side with information warfare.
wrote 12 days ago last edited byNext to diplomacy, punching power can very well come in an economic form, e.g. still multiple tens of billions of euros flow to Russia to purchase fossil fuels.
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That seems an apt assessment.
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I don't think bolstering up defence spending is bad.
It is much better to be prepared than sorry, also negotiating from a strong standpoint is helpful towards some other nations.
wrote 12 days ago last edited byThe EU defense spending is already massive, easily outclassing everyone but the US.
The problem is on what the money is spend on, as much is wasted to national white elephants or transferred to unreliable US defense companies.
And in general way too much is spend on global force projection tech. There is for example no need for the EU to have a navy fleet that can operate independently for many months in the Pacific.
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Just because you might call yourself militant doesnt mean that you need to querfront with all militants. Militancy is simply a tool.
wrote 12 days ago last edited byHow does a strong military prevent a war? It didn't work WW1 or 2.
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2020s repeat the 1920s bingo: The red scare is back
wrote 12 days ago last edited byWell, you got the first part right.
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~ $ apt assessmentE: Invalid operation assessmentwrote 12 days ago last edited byTake a lap
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This article is about Germany rapidly increasing defence spending, and also the fact that they're considering conscription. I also found this interesting:
A recent YouGov poll showed that 79% of Germans still see Vladimir Putin as "very" or "quite" dangerous to European peace and security. Now 74% said the same for Donald Trump.
Thoughts?
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How does a strong military prevent a war? It didn't work WW1 or 2.
wrote 12 days ago last edited byI see your attempt of derailing, but I'll play the game.
How does appeasement prevent a war? It didn't work for the First or Second World War.
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The EU defense spending is already massive, easily outclassing everyone but the US.
The problem is on what the money is spend on, as much is wasted to national white elephants or transferred to unreliable US defense companies.
And in general way too much is spend on global force projection tech. There is for example no need for the EU to have a navy fleet that can operate independently for many months in the Pacific.
wrote 12 days ago last edited byChina is up there too, with U.S. $236.1 billion in 2024.
There is for example no need for the EU to have a navy fleet that can operate independently for many months in the Pacific.
So Tahiti or New Caledonia do not need a navy to be protected. I am sure the French will be exited by having part of their country not being protected by the EU.
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~ $ apt assessmentE: Invalid operation assessmentwrote 12 days ago last edited by~$ sudo apt assessment -
There really is no alternative. History (especially in Europe) has proven a near infinite amount of times that peace through strength is the only language imperialistic dictatorships understand.
wrote 12 days ago last edited byParadox of tolerance.
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China is up there too, with U.S. $236.1 billion in 2024.
There is for example no need for the EU to have a navy fleet that can operate independently for many months in the Pacific.
So Tahiti or New Caledonia do not need a navy to be protected. I am sure the French will be exited by having part of their country not being protected by the EU.
wrote 12 days ago last edited byNow add all the EU defense spending together. But yes, China is trying to catch up, which isn't great either.
Those French overseas colonies would probably benefit from more independence, yes, but if you have an actual military base there or an ally that want you to be there, you don't need navy ships capable of operational multi-month independence either. That is really only needed if operating in hostile territory far away from home, and IMHO we don't need that.
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Now add all the EU defense spending together. But yes, China is trying to catch up, which isn't great either.
Those French overseas colonies would probably benefit from more independence, yes, but if you have an actual military base there or an ally that want you to be there, you don't need navy ships capable of operational multi-month independence either. That is really only needed if operating in hostile territory far away from home, and IMHO we don't need that.
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2020s repeat the 1920s bingo: The red scare is back
wrote 12 days ago last edited byThe only things red in Russia are the blood on Putin's hands and a third of its flag.
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Yes, but EU defense spending now is a hundred billion higher and is projected to increase by another hundred billion by 2027. That double of what China is currently spending, and AFAIK they don't have plans to increase it by that much.
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This article is about Germany rapidly increasing defence spending, and also the fact that they're considering conscription. I also found this interesting:
A recent YouGov poll showed that 79% of Germans still see Vladimir Putin as "very" or "quite" dangerous to European peace and security. Now 74% said the same for Donald Trump.
Thoughts?
wrote 12 days ago last edited byThey gotta be prepared for the 100 year anniversary where they kick off our new tradition of feeding a generation of young men into a woodchipper.
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This article is about Germany rapidly increasing defence spending, and also the fact that they're considering conscription. I also found this interesting:
A recent YouGov poll showed that 79% of Germans still see Vladimir Putin as "very" or "quite" dangerous to European peace and security. Now 74% said the same for Donald Trump.
Thoughts?
wrote 12 days ago last edited byThat's a very artful headline. It's really bouncing around in my head.
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~$ sudo apt assessmentwrote 12 days ago last edited byUsername is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
