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  • I [email protected]

    That's different. That's when you go to a temp agency until you find something better.

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    #23

    In many cases there isn't something better anywhere near where you live.

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    • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]
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      I've never understood why the HR people always see "not asking questions about the company" or "not demonstrating knowledge about the company" as such a red flag.

      People are looking for a job, not a cult to join.

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      • F [email protected]

        Seriously though. I wouldn’t hire someone with that attitude.

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        Then you would only hire people who are lying to you. Congrats on being so shrewd.

        The employees are there because they want the compensation. If it wasn't about the compensation, and they really just enjoyed performing some given task as a hobby or interest, then they don't need your business to do it. They can do it at home.

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        • B [email protected]

          Then you would only hire people who are lying to you. Congrats on being so shrewd.

          The employees are there because they want the compensation. If it wasn't about the compensation, and they really just enjoyed performing some given task as a hobby or interest, then they don't need your business to do it. They can do it at home.

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          Yeah ok people.

          It’s not possible to flourish in my line of work without genuine engagement, and a tenacity beyond curiosity to solve certain problems. A jobsworth will not do.

          Neither, on the other hand, will a soulless boss or employer, manage to engage.

          So keep up with the downvotes and good luck.

          shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lolS E fuglyduck@lemmy.worldF A 4 Replies Last reply
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          • W [email protected]

            I've never understood why the HR people always see "not asking questions about the company" or "not demonstrating knowledge about the company" as such a red flag.

            People are looking for a job, not a cult to join.

            mysticketchup@lemmy.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #27

            They want cultists though. Easier to exploit

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            • W [email protected]

              I've never understood why the HR people always see "not asking questions about the company" or "not demonstrating knowledge about the company" as such a red flag.

              People are looking for a job, not a cult to join.

              sir_kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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              Not to mention, they could already be familiar with the company.

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              • mysticketchup@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                They want cultists though. Easier to exploit

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                Once I did an online interview process were they had a whole video and slideshow explaining about the company history and culture and the employees were saying about how it was a position for people who "truly believed in the mission of the company".

                And then they had a quiz about it.
                They truly want a cult. Fuck em.

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                • sir_kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.comS [email protected]

                  Not to mention, they could already be familiar with the company.

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                  Yeah... I'm not gonna be asking the stuff I already found answers to via an internet search.

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                  • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]
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                    He forgot the red flag emoji.

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                    • F [email protected]

                      Yeah ok people.

                      It’s not possible to flourish in my line of work without genuine engagement, and a tenacity beyond curiosity to solve certain problems. A jobsworth will not do.

                      Neither, on the other hand, will a soulless boss or employer, manage to engage.

                      So keep up with the downvotes and good luck.

                      shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lolS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #32

                      So keep up with the downvotes and good luck.

                      Baby's bottom soft.

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                      • F [email protected]

                        Yeah ok people.

                        It’s not possible to flourish in my line of work without genuine engagement, and a tenacity beyond curiosity to solve certain problems. A jobsworth will not do.

                        Neither, on the other hand, will a soulless boss or employer, manage to engage.

                        So keep up with the downvotes and good luck.

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                        "You can't flourish as a corporate lapdog without a genuine passion for being a corporate lapdog. I should know, im a very successful corporate lapdog. My manager tells me im a good boy almost every week. The managers can tell if your heart isnt in it when you lick their face and their boots, if you dont have tenacity and a go getter attitude you'll never be able to be a successful corporate lapdog like me. Its not easy making money for other people."

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                        • F [email protected]

                          Yeah ok people.

                          It’s not possible to flourish in my line of work without genuine engagement, and a tenacity beyond curiosity to solve certain problems. A jobsworth will not do.

                          Neither, on the other hand, will a soulless boss or employer, manage to engage.

                          So keep up with the downvotes and good luck.

                          fuglyduck@lemmy.worldF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #34

                          I’m curious.

                          What’s your line of work, if you don’t mind?

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                            Once I did an online interview process were they had a whole video and slideshow explaining about the company history and culture and the employees were saying about how it was a position for people who "truly believed in the mission of the company".

                            And then they had a quiz about it.
                            They truly want a cult. Fuck em.

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                            I worked at Asus as a software developer for a while, had ti do a whole ass course on the history of the company. With unskippable videos and a questionnaire after as well. Pretty sure that took the better part of a day.

                            I only worked on the internal systems that really don't have anything to do with the actual products Asus makes.

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                            • G [email protected]

                              I worked at Asus as a software developer for a while, had ti do a whole ass course on the history of the company. With unskippable videos and a questionnaire after as well. Pretty sure that took the better part of a day.

                              I only worked on the internal systems that really don't have anything to do with the actual products Asus makes.

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                              ASUS does seem to care more about their name than the quality of...
                              of anything they output

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                              • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]
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                                I care about what work I do. I tend to ask about the project at the end of the technical round.
                                The HR is not going to hear about that.

                                I am not interested in the company's history, their mission/vision and other propaganda.
                                All I need to know about the company is, if they will actually pay me on time for the work I have done and that they are not going-under and defaulting on payments.


                                And since I do care about the work that I do, it matters to me, what will become of the project after the company gets the worth out of it.
                                And that is where all big-names fail miserably.

                                You are selling a smartphone/ laptop/ a cloud connected camera/ any product that uses multiple components with their own use?
                                At the end of support period, you are to openly distribute the documentation for all components.
                                That way, a camera out of an old smartphone/laptop won't require reverse engineering to be reused with a Pi or sth.
                                A monitor screen out of a laptop can be used as another monitor, without having to buy another controller from a shady site (yeah, I call AliExpress, a shady site) and the existing eDP controller can be reused, without requiring an Oscilloscope.
                                When your web-service goes down, the user can make their own interfacer and use the camera on their personal cloud.

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                                • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzB [email protected]

                                  That means that the HR account thinks what the employee account wrote is bad, too. Both posts are bad extremes.

                                  As an employee, if i find a prospective colleague who doesn’t ask about what they’re supposed to be doing at all, I’d be wary of them, too.

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                                  The thing is that that kind of information is usually in the offer. I'd be polite and and for confirmation and clarification but not everyone has that kind of tact and not hiring someone because they didn't ask you to repeat what it's written on the offer is kinda harsh tbh.

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                                    "You can't flourish as a corporate lapdog without a genuine passion for being a corporate lapdog. I should know, im a very successful corporate lapdog. My manager tells me im a good boy almost every week. The managers can tell if your heart isnt in it when you lick their face and their boots, if you dont have tenacity and a go getter attitude you'll never be able to be a successful corporate lapdog like me. Its not easy making money for other people."

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                                    Wow. What’s happened to you to make you so cynical?

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                                      HOW DARE YOU ASK FOR COMFORT IN YOUR ONLY ONE LIFE???!!

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                                      • U [email protected]

                                        I care about what work I do. I tend to ask about the project at the end of the technical round.
                                        The HR is not going to hear about that.

                                        I am not interested in the company's history, their mission/vision and other propaganda.
                                        All I need to know about the company is, if they will actually pay me on time for the work I have done and that they are not going-under and defaulting on payments.


                                        And since I do care about the work that I do, it matters to me, what will become of the project after the company gets the worth out of it.
                                        And that is where all big-names fail miserably.

                                        You are selling a smartphone/ laptop/ a cloud connected camera/ any product that uses multiple components with their own use?
                                        At the end of support period, you are to openly distribute the documentation for all components.
                                        That way, a camera out of an old smartphone/laptop won't require reverse engineering to be reused with a Pi or sth.
                                        A monitor screen out of a laptop can be used as another monitor, without having to buy another controller from a shady site (yeah, I call AliExpress, a shady site) and the existing eDP controller can be reused, without requiring an Oscilloscope.
                                        When your web-service goes down, the user can make their own interfacer and use the camera on their personal cloud.

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                                        Regarding the payment info is why we need to have companies be more transparent all over the world. In NL it is already mandatory for companies to post some form of an annual report (sometimes very basic) and you can buy them for like 8 euro's or something. That way you can check those and see if how the company is doing in broad lines. If you notice that on their last annual report there iare red flags you can ask about that in your interview or just straith up deny working there since there is a risk they will miss payments.

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          Let us not forget that there is not a single employer on the planet who would willingly hire and pay someone more for their time than that person's time is worth. Each employee of a company is making that company money. They deserve comfort because they are the company.

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                                          I have a client who helps their personal out way more than they should. Even paying them extra so they can pay their tax debt.
                                          Not that some of his employees deserve it, heck the one he paid the tax debt for is even leaving the company after this all happened.

                                          Corporate bosses suck, small company bosses can be pretty decent depending on the type of company and how much money is being made. These are the companies that generally don't have a HR deparment or a C level employee.

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