DeepSeek collects keystroke data and more, storing it in Chinese servers

[pennomi@lemmy.world]

Right, the offline version (if you have the hardware to run it) is completely under your control, and no one can take that away from you. Honestly nice to see that happen, I thought it would take several years.

[ledivin@lemmy.world]

Nothing alleged about it. The main app wraps your prompt in a China-friendly one - at this point, I think people have mined the prompt itself? Scummy, sure, but it's also the same way that literally every other online AI service works.

[philipthebucket@ponder.cat]

Yes. I also like how the alarming take on it is not "People are typing their passwords / medical histories / employer's source code into ChatGPT and from there it goes straight into the training data not only to be stored forever in the corpus, but also sometimes, to be extracted at a later date by any yahoo who knows the way to tease it back out from ChatGPT via the right carefully crafted prompting!"

But instead it is "When you type things, they can see what you type! The keystrokes!"

[snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

I literally explained it pretty clearly.

At this point its clear you want to misunderstand.

Interesting that you took a few paragraphs with a handful of explitives thrown in as "yelling."

[the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.world]

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is the accusation that they collect keystroke data from outside the app if you have it installed?

[philipthebucket@ponder.cat]

Well, you did say it was "pearl clutching" and "fearmongering." My point is, they should be clutching pearls, and fear should be mongered. Arguably, at all the social media companies including TikTok.

I actually do agree that TikTok is worse, but it's hardly the point. We can be alarmed about all of them, especially since the US ones are now in the hands of an overtly evil tyrannical government instead of merely the sociopathic profit-minded corporatocracy they were in before.

[ininewcrow@lemmy.ca]

US and the west: .... Spying is not acceptable! .... except if our companies are doing it

[naeap@sopuli.xyz]

I'd like to look into that, how can I train an existing model further?

I'm only playing around with ollama, but like to do a bit more - mostly just to fulfill my needs to understand things - but have no idea where to start

[snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

You're literally talking to people in a privacy forum hosted outside of corporate social media... and you think people don't agree with you.

That's on you, dude.

[queermunist@lemmy.ml]

Well, only one of those governments can actually do anything to me. Hint: it's the one I live under

[philipthebucket@ponder.cat]

I'm talking to someone in a privacy forum hosted outside of corporate social media who described reports about privacy violations committed by a privacy-invasive social media app as pearl-clutching and fearmongering.

I'm not sure what your deal is, here, but I'm not into it. I feel like what I said was pretty straightforward and you're determined to gin up some kind of disagreement, where I'm supposed to say that corporate media's reporting on privacy isn't bad, or something.

Privacy good, corporate privacy invasion bad. Corporate media underreporting of privacy violations bad. Hopefully that makes sense, and we can agree on it. I'm not into whatever argument you're attempting to create about it.

[koncertejo@lemmy.ml]

They're desperate to manufacture consent against their competition

[snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Privacy good, corporate privacy invasion bad. Corporate media underreporting of privacy violations bad.

We never had an argument other than you keep positing that people don't agree with this while they're busy explaining to you that yes, they actually do, and you keep ignoring that.

...but keep on arguing with people who actually agree with you and telling yourself they don't.

[floofloof@lemmy.ca]

Which one to trust more is at least debatable. In the end, neither can be trusted.

[zifk@sh.itjust.works]

Annoyingly, some of the censorship is baked into the model, it still won't answer all question about china.

[catloaf@lemm.ee]

And they probably aren't even doing that. More likely, it's just bot prevention.

[zante@slrpnk.net]

The response the deepseek has been so transparent and cliched .

I thought more of Mashable. , but I suppose it’s good when they show you who they really are

[catloaf@lemm.ee]

You think other governments can't reach you? Did you miss the whole "election interference" thing? Have you never heard of propaganda?

[catloaf@lemm.ee]

I haven't seen any indication of that, no.

[gullible@sh.itjust.works]

Strawmanning the open source federated social media enthusiast crowd as unaware fans of meta?