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What do you believe that most people of your political creed don't?

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  • kotauskas@lemmy.blahaj.zoneK [email protected]

    Christianity should be criminalized.

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    Upvoting because this is definitely a controversial take

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      I am very very very left wing, but

      Everytime I see someone say this I know without a shadow of a doubt that they're a centrist liberal.

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      Lmao this thread is full of "very/hard far left" who then present very cold takes or are straight out libs.

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        Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain't dead. Remember, don't downvote for disagreements.

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        Freedom of speech for absolutely everyone, especially people I disagree with and that disagree with me

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        • black0ut@pawb.socialB [email protected]

          Protests are only good if they're annoying. They're meant to be annoying. They're meant to make other people notice, to stop traffic, to cause delays and ideally an economic hit to the city. If nobody felt the protest, how do you expect it to have an effect?

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          Protests are definitely meant to be noticed, and should also make you think. Ideally they should also be attractive for others to join, allowing the protest to gain momentum. But being annoying (at least to regular people) seems counter productive to that? Sometimes it is unavoidable, but I don't think it should be desired.

          Of course being annoying to the body being protested against is definitely desired.

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            I think we need to figure out how to make leftism more appealing to centrists, and particularly to the cis/straight/white/male demographic.

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            It depends on the material conditions. Also there is a reason "centrists" even exist and appear to you as some kind of constant monolith. Or as Marx did put it "Ideas of ruling class are the ruling ideas"

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              Y'all don't need to keep adding things to lgbtq or lgbt+. The q or + takes care of everything

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              I'm working on transitioning to using They/Them pronouns for everyone since they're completely neutral and fit every context. If your preference is Xe/Xem, I respect that—but unfortunately, my brain just doesn't have the bandwidth to keep track of multiple pronouns consistently. You get They/Them.

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                Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain't dead. Remember, don't downvote for disagreements.

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                I'm going to expect a lot of dislikes for this one...

                Neutering/Spaying is animal abuse.

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                  I think we need to figure out how to make leftism more appealing to centrists, and particularly to the cis/straight/white/male demographic.

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                  IMO the biggest problem is media. They report through a center-right lens and focus on sensationalism. So all people see of the left is the "check your privilege cis white boy" and "anarchists have burned down the entire city" BS lines instead of the vast aid efforts and daily work.

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                    I know a few people who are police, one being a very close friend who is now retired from being a cop. Not a single one of them is a bad person or cop. The stories I hear from them make me wonder why they would do it, and the universal answer is usually to help people. The best part is that of the six or so people I know counting my friends, they are all quitting because people treat them so badly juat for doing thier job, and they will be replaced with cops who show no compassion. I myself have many stories of cops being understanding and caring and, in turn, being very lenient. When I talk to people with the acab mentality, the police never go easy. It's odd how just treat people how you want to be treated works.

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                    Sure they might be good for you, their friend. They might not fell endangered by random dog and shoot it. They might even not beat their partner. But what they will do if encouter person shoplifting food? Someone having a tiny amount of drugs? Or if ordered to beat and/or arrest the protesters, like the students peacefully protesting Gaza genocide? ACAB is not a personal theory, it's systemic. Systemically your good friends are still the armed opression arm of capitalist government and a footsoldiers in the class war against vast majority of society.

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                      no, we have another party for that in Belgium (Vooruit).
                      Groen has a leftist program

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                      Groen are center left liberals.

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                        Cultural appropriation is specifically a method in which suppressing groups deny the cultural heritage of oppressed around. To call it a faux pas is ridiculous and ignorant

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                        Respectfully, I disagree with your definition of cultural appropriation, but i agree it's wrong to deny others the right to identify with their heritage or cultures.

                        Cultures borrow from one another, it's just the nature of having multiple societies in proximity. I would argue (outside of the realm of exploitation) more often than not, cultural appropriation doesn't come from a malevolent place, nor does it restrict anyone from otherwise enjoying their own heritage and culture. Some 9 year old wearing a Halloween costume of a Disney princess that isn't their own race isn't the crime we make it out to be. At worst it's a faux pas, at best that kid took an interest in a group of people they are not familiar with and learned about them.

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                          Yeah, of course, death penalty is never acceptable and must be abolished entirely. Even setting aside that no proof of a physical event can be 100% solid, or all the other practicality arguments; even the worst rapists, murderers, terrorists and billionaires are still humans and do not deserve death.

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                          It already is in all modern societies except like the USA.

                          I took this as a thought experiment. You seems to root awfully much for these bad people, I'd say let's help them when we have helped all their victims.

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                            It already is in all modern societies except like the USA.

                            I took this as a thought experiment. You seems to root awfully much for these bad people, I'd say let's help them when we have helped all their victims.

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                            It already is in all modern societies except like the USA.

                            Given the original commenter was talking about "the left", I'm critiquing AES countries (e.g. China) here. USA is a lost cause when it comes to human rights anyways.

                            You seems to root awfully much for these bad people

                            That's just basic human empathy combined with practicality. They are still human and deserve humane treatment, and also most of them (like 80% if we look at Scandinavia) can be reintegrated into the society in some way.

                            I’d say let’s help them when we have helped all their victims

                            You won't be able to help them if you murder them

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                              I think we should create a system where people have a choice. Life in prison or death. I think k it would clear up a lot of the ethical issues of the death penalty.

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                              that's an interesting angle I'd not thought of before...

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                              • J [email protected]

                                Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain't dead. Remember, don't downvote for disagreements.

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                                I'm anarchist left, but I do think every human should have the right to defend themself and thereforce should be able to bear arms

                                I'm not american if anyone's gonna ask

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                                  Immigration is universally a roaring net positive in all of history ; economically, socially, everything. It's more than disinformation when they spew talking points. It's hate. And most people complicit are just fully ignorant. USA lost their empire due to lack of education. Every other first world nations have their success in lockstep with the level of education they give their kids. A heist of all wealth has been conducted and you are viewing the aftermath. Elon will find your coffers empty. The real treasure, turns out, was the people.

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                                  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/18/how-spains-radically-different-approach-to-migration-helped-its-economy-soar

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                                    Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain't dead. Remember, don't downvote for disagreements.

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                                    • permanent revolution;
                                    • that parties should be democratic institutions;
                                    • that burocratization leads to deformed proletarian states.
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                                    • flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

                                      You are describing intentional misgendering. That's against our instance rules, so make sure you use preferred pronouns for folks who display them.

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                                      I always assumed "they" could be used no matter what?

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                                        It already is in all modern societies except like the USA.

                                        Given the original commenter was talking about "the left", I'm critiquing AES countries (e.g. China) here. USA is a lost cause when it comes to human rights anyways.

                                        You seems to root awfully much for these bad people

                                        That's just basic human empathy combined with practicality. They are still human and deserve humane treatment, and also most of them (like 80% if we look at Scandinavia) can be reintegrated into the society in some way.

                                        I’d say let’s help them when we have helped all their victims

                                        You won't be able to help them if you murder them

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                                        Now I said let's murder them?

                                        Please don't use cheap discussing techniques, it makes any point you're trying to do look moot.

                                        Interestingly you still only talk about the perpetrators and not the victims.

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                                          Abortion is not a moral hazard at all. Most people who might exist don't. The whole "everyone agrees abortion is awful..." shit is obnoxious. I legitimately do not care. I am far more concerned about the lives of actual children. Once we seriously tackle that issue, we can move downstream.

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                                          If i was aborted I wouldn't care, because I would be aborted.

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