Is Thunderbird Mail safe to use privacywise?

[davel@lemmy.ml]

This doesn’t bode well at all: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/about/

Thunderbird operates in a separate, for-profit subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation.

A free mail client from a for-profit company? What’s the revenue model? Sounds like I must the product somehow.

The Thunderbird for-profit entity, MZLA Technologies Corporation, is distinct from the Firefox for-profit entity, Mozilla Corporation, and both are wholly owned by the non-profit entity, Mozilla Foundation.

[transsynthesist@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

What's a good alternative?

[amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz]

Yes, fully open source. If you don't trust Mozilla, use a fork like Betterbird.

[ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com]

That’s odd

[ryannathans@aussie.zone]

The page you linked

To us, data ownership and privacy are your right wherever you live. Our commitment to your personal data is simple:

We do not collect or store it unless you ask us to.

We take great care to keep it safe from misuse.

We will never sell it.

You retain ownership and control of it.

[davel@lemmy.ml]

This for-profit company saying that I am not the product doesn’t necessarily make it so, and it doesn’t explain what is the product or service being sold and to whom. And just as their Firefox counterpart changed their terms yesterday, they could change theirs tomorrow.

Mozilla hasn’t been moving in promising directions lately. Mozilla's CEO doubles down on them being an advertising company now

[ryannathans@aussie.zone]

Without advertising money and alternate revenue streams there would be no Mozilla

[Guest]

Thanks, that was my question. I use betterbird and wasn’t sure if this had anything to do with it.

[Guest]

If you don't trust the source, how is a fork built from the same source going to help?

[foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml]

It's not really not trusting Mozilla but more what they do to their products, telemetry and else

The same source with patches if you prefer that

[autonomoususer@lemmy.world]

You think they only renamed it?

[Guest]

I mean if the core is from them and you can't confidently say that the fork creator has reviewed and continues to review every piece of the code before they merge, you're still trusting Mozilla.

[autonomoususer@lemmy.world]

We are not banned from doing that. If Mozilla was really hiding something it would not be libre software.

[elohim_samael@lemmy.world]

What else is there to use on my Samsung galaxy s23 ultra?

[nomugisan@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Mozilla's telemetry change in Thunderbird Android makes me say "find a different client."

Generally, you should pick and choose your battles. Mozilla on the whole isn't a company whose software I trust anymore.

[leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

FairEmail has a good reputation.

[sh3llcmdr@feddit.uk]

Awesome. I'll take a look, thanks

[tursy@lemmy.world]

Does Betterbird even remove telemetry from Thunderbird? From my knowledge they only add a few Bugfixes and recompile the binary. Never heard them talking about telemetry, tracking etc. Does anybody know?

[doodledup@lemmy.world]

This is normal usage stats. Every app has that. You can opt out and you get asked when launching the app the first time. This isn't that bad.

[nomugisan@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Stop gaslighting me.