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  • A [email protected]

    Look for GPUs with more memory.
    My choice is the AMD 7900 XTX with 24Gb.

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    Scalpers made it expensive though

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    • ? Guest

      I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

      But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
      But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
      I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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      Privacy is not all or nothing, and using one thing doesn't cancel all efforts somewhere else.

      Don't go so far into the privacy hole that it affects your mental health. Just do what's easy for you.

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        I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

        But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
        But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
        I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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        "I'm weak and it helps me" Put down the Internet and touch some grass dude. You ain't weak, stop taking in that cuck incel bullshit. Talking about your shit helps so much that people literally charge money to listen to you. Don't let the manlets shame you into not seeking the help you need.

        Who cares about using or not using AI dude? The people having those discussions are privileged assholes that have nothing better to talk about. If it helps you be happier, use it. You can pay it forward later.

        Use the tools you need to take care of yourself and don't form your opinions of yourself based on the bots that populate social media.

        What you do in your own time with publicly available tools is your business, fuck the people who don't like it.

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          "I'm weak and it helps me" Put down the Internet and touch some grass dude. You ain't weak, stop taking in that cuck incel bullshit. Talking about your shit helps so much that people literally charge money to listen to you. Don't let the manlets shame you into not seeking the help you need.

          Who cares about using or not using AI dude? The people having those discussions are privileged assholes that have nothing better to talk about. If it helps you be happier, use it. You can pay it forward later.

          Use the tools you need to take care of yourself and don't form your opinions of yourself based on the bots that populate social media.

          What you do in your own time with publicly available tools is your business, fuck the people who don't like it.

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          JFC

          Can you maybe not erase how this person feels? Even if you believe they were married to the toys way, that is a terrible message of hostility.

          How about you have some compassion for someone who was made to feel like that??

          Put yourself in their shoes, if they already feel bad you legally then and shitting all over them I'm the most boorish and toxic way possibly is not helpful

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          • ? Guest

            I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

            But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
            But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
            I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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            If I may offer a suggestion:

            OpenwebUI in a docker image, cloudflare tunnel set up to enable access outside the home, the cheapest domain name you can get.

            You can selfhost your ChatGPT bot so you can keep your data to yourself!

            You'll need a decently powerful PC at home, nothing crazy, any decent gaming rig from the last 5 years should run it fine!

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            • ? Guest

              I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

              But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
              But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
              I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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              Sounds like you might be sacrificing your mental wellbeing for some privacy gains. You should probably consider your priorities. Which one comes first?

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                I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

                But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
                But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
                I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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                Go set up an ollama instance and melt your worries away. Data in your hands once again.

                However, you should also learn some restraint. Privacy and security aren't an all or nothing battle. Everyone has some holes in their armor, they need them to breathe.

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                • J [email protected]

                  JFC

                  Can you maybe not erase how this person feels? Even if you believe they were married to the toys way, that is a terrible message of hostility.

                  How about you have some compassion for someone who was made to feel like that??

                  Put yourself in their shoes, if they already feel bad you legally then and shitting all over them I'm the most boorish and toxic way possibly is not helpful

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                  Sure. The incel pipeline is not my business tbh.

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                  • ? Guest

                    I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

                    But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
                    But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
                    I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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                    Chill out my friend.
                    We use FOSS and privacy respecting things to make our lives easier and more enjoyable . Don't stress yourself. If you need to do something then do it. No need to feel bad.

                    Something is always better than nothing. You've done so much in terms of better privacy and using FOSS so you're doing great and better than most people.
                    Just live your life and improve things step by step.

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                      I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

                      But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
                      But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
                      I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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                      Yes, you are leaking data, but don't panik. First of all, your mental health here and now is important - without it you won't have energy for other things. Next, It takes a lot of energy to de-google or de-corp and you don't wan't to 'leak' now, but in 6 months, you'll have your own private/foss talking AI assistant, and it will help you cut the ties to the last corporation then.

                      So, soon you'll be more 'invisible' for the corps, and maybe you can 'live with the spying/manipulation' for a moment longer ? Not sure how long it takes for their AI to find you anyway, but at least the removed have to work for it..

                      Alternatively, get a free account at Groq (also have 'whisper' stt), or sambanova and install/use open-webui for talking. These new hardware corps don't train AI on free user interactions, and they probably don't sell your information - yet. There are other methods for p2p sharing of AI resources, but they may not provide quality high enough or with all modalities.

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                      • ? Guest

                        I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

                        But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
                        But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
                        I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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                        I didn't tell ChatGPT who I am. I have a separate email address for it and everything.

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                        • J [email protected]

                          Go set up an ollama instance and melt your worries away. Data in your hands once again.

                          However, you should also learn some restraint. Privacy and security aren't an all or nothing battle. Everyone has some holes in their armor, they need them to breathe.

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                          that's a nice way to view it

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                          • tundra@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                            host your own AI using: https://ollama.com/

                            this paired with "AnythingLLM" is pretty powerful, and you dont have to worry about data being sent anywhere

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                            Llamacpp, Koboldcpp, and TabbyAPI are also popular local backends for local AI. SillyTavern or RisuAi are good frontends for a chat/RP style experience. Or LM Studio for a simple, all in one solution.

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                              The obsession with privacy can be taken to an extreme where it's a negative for your mental health. You can sacrifice a little privacy for another important benefit. 100% privacy is either not possible or practical, so don't let it stress you out. I'd be more concerned that AI might lead you down a wrong path, but you're an adult, use your own judgement.

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                              I get that, but the problem with this kind of AI is, I feel like I'm sacrificing a lot, not a little.

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                                I don't think the AI is the problem here. I think you should see a real professional therapist.

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                                I did, but that's not really the subject. I'm not taking GPT as a therapist by the way, I may have been misunderstood because english is not my first language. But I'm not sharing mental health things with it.

                                In any case, I think the problem I'm feeling can be real for many people that are not in mental state anyway. But I totally see why you would say that, thanks.

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                                • tundra@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                                  host your own AI using: https://ollama.com/

                                  this paired with "AnythingLLM" is pretty powerful, and you dont have to worry about data being sent anywhere

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                                  I have been suggested to self host in the past.
                                  But as I'm concerned for ecology, and let's be a honest, a bit of my money too, I've thought that self hosting, meaning having the PC always on, was not a good thing.
                                  So I left the dilemma in this state, not knowing how "bad" this would actually be in terms of electric consumption, and if it was worth the trade with privacy or not.

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                                  • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachtsO [email protected]

                                    Privacy issues aside, don’t allow yourself to become too comfortable with leaning on AI for so much. Aside from the obvious things like AI info being flat out wrong sometimes and hallucinations, it’s going to train you into some bad habit holes during a vulnerable time. Look at how quickly we reach to map software for travel. It causes us to get mentally lazy.

                                    If you are focused on using it and worried about privacy, you can host your own model like someone else mentioned, but you need a pretty beefy computer for it, and you could potentially host a model on the cloud (I know that breaks privacy and self-hosting rules a bit), but that can get expensive.

                                    I’m a programmer and I’ve had to discipline myself with how I use Copilot. I try to lean on it for troubleshooting code I’ve written, and for doing tedious tasks that I know how to do but want to save time on.

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                                    I am definitely leaning on AI quite a bit lately. I ask and check sources now and then tho.

                                    Side thinking, but I'm ot sure how we'll see this problem in the future, when/if AI is "guaranteed" to basically never get things wrong.
                                    It's the same with GPS/Maps software, since you're talking about it.
                                    I've always been way worse than average to situate myself in space (? sorry, bad english probably), and GPS helps me immensely, me and my anxiety (and even then, I still manage to get stressed and miss things sometimes lol), it's basically right most of the time as far as I know.
                                    Now IA being "always right" (let's simplify) would have other consequences entirely, since it touches way more aspects of what we do as humans.

                                    Not sure what to think from here, but yes, I'm definitely checking sources for important things, and restraining myself to not type every request I'm looking for into a chatbot.

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                                    • mangopenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM [email protected]

                                      Privacy is not all or nothing, and using one thing doesn't cancel all efforts somewhere else.

                                      Don't go so far into the privacy hole that it affects your mental health. Just do what's easy for you.

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                                      In the end you're right, but as I was answering in another post, AI seems so big for the future and potentially invasive, that if I start giving this up, not having a google account or whatever, to me, would seem like nothing in comparison, if I'm trying to maintain a relative degree of privacy.
                                      So I feel like it's not giving up a bit of my infos, but probably all of it, specially when using an app.
                                      Not sure if I'm making sense.
                                      But it's like "ok, I won't give this man my info". "This other man, on the other hand, can live in my house and listen to everything"

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                                        But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.

                                        You should consider journaling and/or a support group and/or professional help. You say it's always been with you, and relying on an LLM to help you parse your thoughts is only going to lead to bad places. It does not have the knowledge or skill of a psychologist, even with its vast database. It doesn't "know" the correct way to apply psychological concepts or know when you're engaging in destructive behavior, and it could even reinforce those same behaviors. AI can feel like a friend to talk to, but it's an illusion.

                                        But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)

                                        If you're telling it your deepest secrets and current problems, yes. You're putting your personal information out there for a profit-driven company to use at their discretion. Several people have suggested self-hosting, and I would agree, but ultimately I think you need to seek human help for the root cause of why you're leaning so heavily upon AI.

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                                        Those seem like good advice, but when I was saying dictate, I was just talking about sending my requests to the chatbot app via microphone, not writing.
                                        I tend to be super adhd-y, forget things, be overwhelmed, get into sideway things, and having a quick way to ask this or that, while thinking out loud, is kinda what helps me.
                                        But yes, in a way, some sort of journaling, trying to focus and slowing down would help me.

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                                          But lately I’ve been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it’s always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.

                                          Do you mean you use it to brain dump your thoughts and things like that?

                                          If so, have you considered simply... writing stuff down with a pen on paper? Aka, journaling.

                                          I've been doing that for, well, almost all all my live (started as little boy, I'm now well into my 50s) and it has always been tremendous help to better understand whatever is going on in my head/happening around me/with other people/the world.

                                          Pen and paper journaling is also 100% not online, unless you want it to be. And it's cheap, when it's not completely free 😉

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                                          Sorry, lots of posts to answer to, but I've basically answered yours in another post I suppose (Telorand
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