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  • M [email protected]

    I really, really don't understand how people see LLMs as the only options for stuff like this...

    Literally, written language and even typewriters have been a part of human history for a relatively long amount of time compared to how long simple computers have been a part of human history. I wonder if OP is very young and part of a generation that doesn't even know what landlines are.

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    I really, really don’t understand how people see LLMs as the only options for stuff like this…

    We can't tell that is what the OP thinks and I would rather not assume anything. But if that was the case, I would imagine OP is from this generation that seems to have completely lost connection with the written word. It's a huge loss foir them (and for the whole society), a dramatic one even but one can't realize how tragic it is, and how much they are losing, if they don't have an opportunity to experiment what's it's like to be writing (and reading).

    To the OP, if you're wondering about writing in a journal (paper or digital, it's up to you but be assured it can be private), feel free come and say hello in the [email protected]. I'm the admin there and if there isn't much activity going on, I'm pretty sure this kind of situations may be of interest to way more people than we imagine. At the very least, if you have questions, I would do my best to answer them, hopefully others would chime in too 😉

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    • M [email protected]

      Spend $500, buy a beefy used GPU and run Whisper + Mistral small. It'll be a bit slow but now you can maintain your privacy on your own hardware! Best of both worlds.

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      #26

      Look for GPUs with more memory.
      My choice is the AMD 7900 XTX with 24Gb.

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        Look for GPUs with more memory.
        My choice is the AMD 7900 XTX with 24Gb.

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        #27

        Yeah unfortunately ROCM is shit last I heard

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        • A [email protected]

          Look for GPUs with more memory.
          My choice is the AMD 7900 XTX with 24Gb.

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          Scalpers made it expensive though

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          • ? Guest

            I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

            But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
            But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
            I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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            #29

            Privacy is not all or nothing, and using one thing doesn't cancel all efforts somewhere else.

            Don't go so far into the privacy hole that it affects your mental health. Just do what's easy for you.

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              I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

              But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
              But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
              I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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              "I'm weak and it helps me" Put down the Internet and touch some grass dude. You ain't weak, stop taking in that cuck incel bullshit. Talking about your shit helps so much that people literally charge money to listen to you. Don't let the manlets shame you into not seeking the help you need.

              Who cares about using or not using AI dude? The people having those discussions are privileged assholes that have nothing better to talk about. If it helps you be happier, use it. You can pay it forward later.

              Use the tools you need to take care of yourself and don't form your opinions of yourself based on the bots that populate social media.

              What you do in your own time with publicly available tools is your business, fuck the people who don't like it.

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                "I'm weak and it helps me" Put down the Internet and touch some grass dude. You ain't weak, stop taking in that cuck incel bullshit. Talking about your shit helps so much that people literally charge money to listen to you. Don't let the manlets shame you into not seeking the help you need.

                Who cares about using or not using AI dude? The people having those discussions are privileged assholes that have nothing better to talk about. If it helps you be happier, use it. You can pay it forward later.

                Use the tools you need to take care of yourself and don't form your opinions of yourself based on the bots that populate social media.

                What you do in your own time with publicly available tools is your business, fuck the people who don't like it.

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                JFC

                Can you maybe not erase how this person feels? Even if you believe they were married to the toys way, that is a terrible message of hostility.

                How about you have some compassion for someone who was made to feel like that??

                Put yourself in their shoes, if they already feel bad you legally then and shitting all over them I'm the most boorish and toxic way possibly is not helpful

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                  I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

                  But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
                  But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
                  I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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                  If I may offer a suggestion:

                  OpenwebUI in a docker image, cloudflare tunnel set up to enable access outside the home, the cheapest domain name you can get.

                  You can selfhost your ChatGPT bot so you can keep your data to yourself!

                  You'll need a decently powerful PC at home, nothing crazy, any decent gaming rig from the last 5 years should run it fine!

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                  • ? Guest

                    I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

                    But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
                    But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
                    I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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                    Sounds like you might be sacrificing your mental wellbeing for some privacy gains. You should probably consider your priorities. Which one comes first?

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                    • ? Guest

                      I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

                      But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
                      But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
                      I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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                      #34

                      Go set up an ollama instance and melt your worries away. Data in your hands once again.

                      However, you should also learn some restraint. Privacy and security aren't an all or nothing battle. Everyone has some holes in their armor, they need them to breathe.

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                        JFC

                        Can you maybe not erase how this person feels? Even if you believe they were married to the toys way, that is a terrible message of hostility.

                        How about you have some compassion for someone who was made to feel like that??

                        Put yourself in their shoes, if they already feel bad you legally then and shitting all over them I'm the most boorish and toxic way possibly is not helpful

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                        Sure. The incel pipeline is not my business tbh.

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                        • ? Guest

                          I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

                          But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
                          But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
                          I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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                          Chill out my friend.
                          We use FOSS and privacy respecting things to make our lives easier and more enjoyable . Don't stress yourself. If you need to do something then do it. No need to feel bad.

                          Something is always better than nothing. You've done so much in terms of better privacy and using FOSS so you're doing great and better than most people.
                          Just live your life and improve things step by step.

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                            I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

                            But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
                            But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
                            I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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                            Yes, you are leaking data, but don't panik. First of all, your mental health here and now is important - without it you won't have energy for other things. Next, It takes a lot of energy to de-google or de-corp and you don't wan't to 'leak' now, but in 6 months, you'll have your own private/foss talking AI assistant, and it will help you cut the ties to the last corporation then.

                            So, soon you'll be more 'invisible' for the corps, and maybe you can 'live with the spying/manipulation' for a moment longer ? Not sure how long it takes for their AI to find you anyway, but at least the removed have to work for it..

                            Alternatively, get a free account at Groq (also have 'whisper' stt), or sambanova and install/use open-webui for talking. These new hardware corps don't train AI on free user interactions, and they probably don't sell your information - yet. There are other methods for p2p sharing of AI resources, but they may not provide quality high enough or with all modalities.

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                              I've been digging into the rabbit hole for a few months. Been switching to Linux, FOSS everything I can, trying to go to smaller sites, the least dubious social media, VPN, trusted mail, etc etc

                              But lately I've been in a rough state mentally (I say lately but it's always been with me) and having GPT guide me and being able to just dictate what I think helps me a lot on various levels, for various reasons.
                              But at this point, using ChatGPT with a mic, isn't this basically cancelling every effort I've made? (using it in the first place anyway)
                              I'm weak and it helps me, should I just throw my efforts out of the window and just say I don't care about privacy anymore and use whatever everyone uses? (on one hand, I've found alternatives for almost everything, so I could keep on using those, but also, again, if I keep on using GPT on a regular basis, this is probably the worst threat the future has to offer in termes of privacy, so...I'm lost)

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                              I didn't tell ChatGPT who I am. I have a separate email address for it and everything.

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                              • J [email protected]

                                Go set up an ollama instance and melt your worries away. Data in your hands once again.

                                However, you should also learn some restraint. Privacy and security aren't an all or nothing battle. Everyone has some holes in their armor, they need them to breathe.

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                                that's a nice way to view it

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                                • tundra@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                                  host your own AI using: https://ollama.com/

                                  this paired with "AnythingLLM" is pretty powerful, and you dont have to worry about data being sent anywhere

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                                  Llamacpp, Koboldcpp, and TabbyAPI are also popular local backends for local AI. SillyTavern or RisuAi are good frontends for a chat/RP style experience. Or LM Studio for a simple, all in one solution.

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                                  • F [email protected]

                                    The obsession with privacy can be taken to an extreme where it's a negative for your mental health. You can sacrifice a little privacy for another important benefit. 100% privacy is either not possible or practical, so don't let it stress you out. I'd be more concerned that AI might lead you down a wrong path, but you're an adult, use your own judgement.

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                                    I get that, but the problem with this kind of AI is, I feel like I'm sacrificing a lot, not a little.

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                                      I don't think the AI is the problem here. I think you should see a real professional therapist.

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                                      I did, but that's not really the subject. I'm not taking GPT as a therapist by the way, I may have been misunderstood because english is not my first language. But I'm not sharing mental health things with it.

                                      In any case, I think the problem I'm feeling can be real for many people that are not in mental state anyway. But I totally see why you would say that, thanks.

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                                      • tundra@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                                        host your own AI using: https://ollama.com/

                                        this paired with "AnythingLLM" is pretty powerful, and you dont have to worry about data being sent anywhere

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                                        I have been suggested to self host in the past.
                                        But as I'm concerned for ecology, and let's be a honest, a bit of my money too, I've thought that self hosting, meaning having the PC always on, was not a good thing.
                                        So I left the dilemma in this state, not knowing how "bad" this would actually be in terms of electric consumption, and if it was worth the trade with privacy or not.

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                                        • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachtsO [email protected]

                                          Privacy issues aside, don’t allow yourself to become too comfortable with leaning on AI for so much. Aside from the obvious things like AI info being flat out wrong sometimes and hallucinations, it’s going to train you into some bad habit holes during a vulnerable time. Look at how quickly we reach to map software for travel. It causes us to get mentally lazy.

                                          If you are focused on using it and worried about privacy, you can host your own model like someone else mentioned, but you need a pretty beefy computer for it, and you could potentially host a model on the cloud (I know that breaks privacy and self-hosting rules a bit), but that can get expensive.

                                          I’m a programmer and I’ve had to discipline myself with how I use Copilot. I try to lean on it for troubleshooting code I’ve written, and for doing tedious tasks that I know how to do but want to save time on.

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                                          I am definitely leaning on AI quite a bit lately. I ask and check sources now and then tho.

                                          Side thinking, but I'm ot sure how we'll see this problem in the future, when/if AI is "guaranteed" to basically never get things wrong.
                                          It's the same with GPS/Maps software, since you're talking about it.
                                          I've always been way worse than average to situate myself in space (? sorry, bad english probably), and GPS helps me immensely, me and my anxiety (and even then, I still manage to get stressed and miss things sometimes lol), it's basically right most of the time as far as I know.
                                          Now IA being "always right" (let's simplify) would have other consequences entirely, since it touches way more aspects of what we do as humans.

                                          Not sure what to think from here, but yes, I'm definitely checking sources for important things, and restraining myself to not type every request I'm looking for into a chatbot.

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