Bad film with amazing premise and mediocre execution that you can't stop thinking about?
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I will upvote you, but i must disagree. It was executed flawlessly for 75% of the film. Hell, even the "project 2025" beat towards the end was pretty spot on.
If I may ask, what would you have done to change what you didn't like?
I wonder what the original screenplay looked like. It starts so powerfully, but takes such a vivid downturn at the end to appeal to the masses demanding shootouts and explosions. I suspect the ending was rewritten in order to get green lit for production, because the original ending might've been too cerebral for general audiences. I imagine the original ending probably made you think, and generally that's not what the masses like from their movies. Kind of ironic considering the plot of the film, don't you think?
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I will upvote you, but i must disagree. It was executed flawlessly for 75% of the film. Hell, even the "project 2025" beat towards the end was pretty spot on.
If I may ask, what would you have done to change what you didn't like?
The fight scene where the main character was trying to get Keith David's character to try on the glasses... that was legendary. I've never seen another (serious) fight scene come close to how hard it made me laugh. 10/10 for that. I imagine Roddy was so familiar with fight choreography from being a professional wrestler that he just got the green light to go ALL OUT and both actors nailed it.
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its vaguely welsh, but I actually can't tell
Nah it's not welsh at all, he was born there but grew up entirely in England.
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I will upvote you, but i must disagree. It was executed flawlessly for 75% of the film. Hell, even the "project 2025" beat towards the end was pretty spot on.
If I may ask, what would you have done to change what you didn't like?
Please excuse all the replies, I just love discussing the movie. It's still one of my favorites, but I would love to see some other production company film a different ending and release an alternate version with a powerful ending. Think how "Arrival" (Amy Adams, Jeremy Renner) made you feel at the end. I feel like "They Live" could've been that good, but maybe it was before it's time, and they had to cater to the box office of the time.
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There, third time's the charm (or 10th, more accurately, since lemmy.world is shitting the bed right now).
I think I figured out what was going on, too. The app I use was automatically re-parsing spoiler formatting into its own syntax, but then was erroneously applying that same syntax to text when attempting to view source. So even the example you posted looked different to me when viewed in app versus on the actual site. I made the edit from the site this time and I think that should be good now.
Looks great, bravo!
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Sam Rockwell as Zaphod was spot on. He was the only one who actually read the books, and had to even tell the director to add "Froody" to the script. What a shitshow it must have been for the director not to know that....
That director doesn't sound froody
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Dark City (1998) could definitely fit the bill, it has so many unique ideas for that time in film and you can see there’s of all sorts of future sci-fi movies in it from the matrix to inception, it’s a very visually ugly movie and the acting is subpar but as a premise it’s super interesting. Generally I think remakes are a waste of time and money but I’d love to see this movie with a proper budget and modern technology
I just watched this! It felt like the director wanted to go real big with it but technology just wasn't there with effects. It also tried very hard to be a mindfuck movie but also kept spoiling the twists somehow lol. Overall solid 7+ movie.
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might give this one a watch!
Imo it is way better than what OP made it sound to be, held my attention whole way through.
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I thought the bigger issue was the premise. If earth is in a climate apocalypse, and we have extremely advanced technology that lets us bring life to far out planets, then why are we leaving earth? Can’t those same technologies be applied to saving the earth people?
The whole “we have to go space” feels like manifest destiny and the desperate urge of capitalism to expand.
What I got out of it was that plant life got diseases that killed them/made them unedible and corn was the only one holding off until the start of the movie. Also in my extremely slim understanding of planetary modification you need to release gases (carbon dioxide, oxygen etc) on a planet to create an atmosphere and it's way easier to release gases than remove them.
So their plan was to let the earth crops rot away and plant fresh ones where there is no diseases.
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That director doesn't sound froody
wrote last edited by [email protected]Oh hey Zaphod, yeah he was not a frood indeed
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Nah it's not welsh at all, he was born there but grew up entirely in England.
I cant place his english accent anywhere though either haha
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Mickey 17 is the latest one for me.
will definitely watch this one
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Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets. Amazing world building and visuals that was destroyed by terrible casting and wooden acting.
The box art put me off thisnone, but skimming the plot and it reads like an amazing visual spectacle. Might watch this one
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Jupiter Ascending
They seed the galaxy and harvest whole planets to create an immortality serum. Fantastic world concept ... but a subpar story to make a movie about within that world.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I was so hyped when I saw the trailers, because the visuals and ideas of the story they showcased were exactly my jam. But oh boy, what a dumpster fire the whole movie turned out to be.
Edit: yep, still goosebumps watching the trailer
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Oof is it bad? I was beating myself because I didn’t get to watch in on theatre because of its very short run. I was waiting for digital release to watch it.
wrote last edited by [email protected]It’s not bad, but the pacing is terrible and it’s not really the movie that the trailers made it out to be. The concept and trailer made it look like a completely different movie.
I still enjoyed it, but I’d only give it a 6/10. Robert Pattinson is quickly turning into one of my favourite actors though, he’s great in it.
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Yeah I liked it, thought the lead did a great job.
There was an odd disconnect between first and second part imo.Yeh this was it - great acting by Robert, but the first half of the movie was what the trailers made us think the whole movie was going to focus on.
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Terminator Genisys
First creative use of the time travel the series ever had... And totally botched about every other aspect of the movie that wasn't an action sequence.
That whole 30 second idea of a Terminator in the 70s with a young Sarah Connor was far more interesting than what the movie did with Kyle Reese.
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Terminator Genisys
First creative use of the time travel the series ever had... And totally botched about every other aspect of the movie that wasn't an action sequence.
That whole 30 second idea of a Terminator in the 70s with a young Sarah Connor was far more interesting than what the movie did with Kyle Reese.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Oof yeah, what were they thinking with doing that to Kyle? He was the one pure aspect of the entire franchise (a friend, a lover, a father, a sacrificial pawn) and they cheapened his sacrifice with that nonsense
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Megan Fox came across as an absolute bore
Well, I wasn't looking at her for her acting. Some people are just nice to look at.
By absolute bore I also include her looks. I understand she is supposed to be pretty, but stone-faced is not my thing. Even with her licking-lip image I imagine her eyes staring at the latest gucci dress laced with diamonds or maybe even Bumblebee, but not a man.
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It's a bad star wars movie because of the hyperspace ram.
SciFi inherently requires suspension of disbelief and so I find the way these types of stories ground themselves is through the rules they set. For example fire/explosions don't really make sense in space but its a consistent thing so w/e.
Hyperspace ramming breaks the entire concept of Star wars BC why hasn't anyone done it before? Its the perfect weapon for asymmetrical warfare, its cheap and its very effective. Imagine how a weapon like that could be used with a robot piloting a junk ship, why even build a death star just strap a bunch of garbage to a hyperspace drive and ram it into a planet. Its so effective that every fight in the future needs to consider it as well.
I'd defend this movie far more if it didn't do this. But it didn't only damage its own movie it damaged every story star wars has told retrospectively.
