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Bad film with amazing premise and mediocre execution that you can't stop thinking about?

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  • tetris11@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

    might give this one a watch!

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    Imo it is way better than what OP made it sound to be, held my attention whole way through.

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      I thought the bigger issue was the premise. If earth is in a climate apocalypse, and we have extremely advanced technology that lets us bring life to far out planets, then why are we leaving earth? Can’t those same technologies be applied to saving the earth people?

      The whole “we have to go space” feels like manifest destiny and the desperate urge of capitalism to expand.

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      What I got out of it was that plant life got diseases that killed them/made them unedible and corn was the only one holding off until the start of the movie. Also in my extremely slim understanding of planetary modification you need to release gases (carbon dioxide, oxygen etc) on a planet to create an atmosphere and it's way easier to release gases than remove them.

      So their plan was to let the earth crops rot away and plant fresh ones where there is no diseases.

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        That director doesn't sound froody

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        Oh hey Zaphod, yeah he was not a frood indeed

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          Nah it's not welsh at all, he was born there but grew up entirely in England.

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          I cant place his english accent anywhere though either haha

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            Mickey 17 is the latest one for me.

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            will definitely watch this one

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              Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets. Amazing world building and visuals that was destroyed by terrible casting and wooden acting.

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              The box art put me off thisnone, but skimming the plot and it reads like an amazing visual spectacle. Might watch this one

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                Jupiter Ascending

                They seed the galaxy and harvest whole planets to create an immortality serum. Fantastic world concept ... but a subpar story to make a movie about within that world.

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                I was so hyped when I saw the trailers, because the visuals and ideas of the story they showcased were exactly my jam. But oh boy, what a dumpster fire the whole movie turned out to be.

                Edit: yep, still goosebumps watching the trailer

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                  Oof is it bad? I was beating myself because I didn’t get to watch in on theatre because of its very short run. I was waiting for digital release to watch it.

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                  It’s not bad, but the pacing is terrible and it’s not really the movie that the trailers made it out to be. The concept and trailer made it look like a completely different movie.

                  I still enjoyed it, but I’d only give it a 6/10. Robert Pattinson is quickly turning into one of my favourite actors though, he’s great in it.

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                    Yeah I liked it, thought the lead did a great job.
                    There was an odd disconnect between first and second part imo.

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                    Yeh this was it - great acting by Robert, but the first half of the movie was what the trailers made us think the whole movie was going to focus on.

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                      Terminator Genisys

                      First creative use of the time travel the series ever had... And totally botched about every other aspect of the movie that wasn't an action sequence.

                      That whole 30 second idea of a Terminator in the 70s with a young Sarah Connor was far more interesting than what the movie did with Kyle Reese.

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                        Terminator Genisys

                        First creative use of the time travel the series ever had... And totally botched about every other aspect of the movie that wasn't an action sequence.

                        That whole 30 second idea of a Terminator in the 70s with a young Sarah Connor was far more interesting than what the movie did with Kyle Reese.

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                        Oof yeah, what were they thinking with doing that to Kyle? He was the one pure aspect of the entire franchise (a friend, a lover, a father, a sacrificial pawn) and they cheapened his sacrifice with that nonsense

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                          Megan Fox came across as an absolute bore

                          Well, I wasn't looking at her for her acting. Some people are just nice to look at.

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                          By absolute bore I also include her looks. I understand she is supposed to be pretty, but stone-faced is not my thing. Even with her licking-lip image I imagine her eyes staring at the latest gucci dress laced with diamonds or maybe even Bumblebee, but not a man.

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                            It's a bad star wars movie because of the hyperspace ram.

                            SciFi inherently requires suspension of disbelief and so I find the way these types of stories ground themselves is through the rules they set. For example fire/explosions don't really make sense in space but its a consistent thing so w/e.

                            Hyperspace ramming breaks the entire concept of Star wars BC why hasn't anyone done it before? Its the perfect weapon for asymmetrical warfare, its cheap and its very effective. Imagine how a weapon like that could be used with a robot piloting a junk ship, why even build a death star just strap a bunch of garbage to a hyperspace drive and ram it into a planet. Its so effective that every fight in the future needs to consider it as well.

                            I'd defend this movie far more if it didn't do this. But it didn't only damage its own movie it damaged every story star wars has told retrospectively.

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                              The Cube.
                              Most people saw it as an average horror movie where a bunch of people try to get out of a giant torture box. But there was a pivotal scene that stuck with me where one of the prisoners realizes he helped build part of it. The whole thing wasn't some intentional torture device but just a bunch of people doing their day jobs that were lost in a bureaucracy not ever questioning what their work was creating.
                              A stark reflection of society and the systems we create and the dangers of not ever looking at the bigger picture.

                              Of course they proceeded to shit all over this idea in Cube2 where it ended up being just another evil government experiment.

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                              The thing that stuck with me was: "TWO!"

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                                That seems like a distinction without a difference.

                                Just for the fun of it, I took a screenshot of Google AIs take on the "deconstruction" argument:

                                "Challenging the Chosen One narrative"

                                Rey's parents were "nobody" yet so were Luke Skywalker's parents. The final film is titled "The Rise of Skywalker" on her path to becoming the chosen one.

                                "Revisiting Luke's Heroism"

                                Rehashes the same failures Obi Wan felt for not preventing Anakin from going to the dark side.

                                "Undermining Jedi Ideals"

                                Irrelevant point that could just as easily signify the film's creator's not being familiar with the intricacies of the source material.

                                "Exploration of Failure and Complexity"

                                Throughout all the films, the rebels are constantly facing failures. They get attacked, captured, fail to prevent events from occurring, etc.

                                "Subverting Expectations"

                                An expression ripped straight from the final season of GoT and widely mocked. This film didn't subvert any of my expectations as it all plays out quite predictably in Disney fashion where the "good guys" come out on top in the end. The fact that this argument is even made illustrates the similarity to the previous films which set an expectation for how things are going to play out. I don't see how they really differed in any meaningful way as it all plays out the same in the end.

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                                Only losers and goobers use AI to make their argument for them. Try thinking like a real human.

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                                  There was this movie I saw once called Time Trap. I definitely would not call it good, but the premise was interesting.

                                  Archaeology professor goes missing while exploring a cave which was once thought to be the location of the fountain of youth. His grad students go looking for him, find the cave, weird things start happening when they enter.

                                  Spoilers below:

                                  ::: The cave is revealed to cause some sort of time distortion which grows in intensity the further in you go. The professor who had been missing for days was only in the cave for a few hours. By the time everyone realizes what is happening, months go by, then years. They exit the cave at one point only to find an apocalypse has occurred, with the cave becoming the only safe haven for them to exist in at this point. Without spoiling the rest of the movie, the story plays in to the fountain of youth legend by including a group of Spanish Conquistadors and a tribe of paleolithic cavemen living in a deeper part of the cave, all living as if only days have passed, but in reality centuries/millennia had gone by outside. :::

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                                  Hey, I'm upvoting you and all but I gotta ask how do you do the spoiler thing? I'm using Apollo and it made me click to expand your comment so I could see the spoiler part. How did you format it?

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                                    Not a movie, but a TV show. Revolution.

                                    A sci-fi post-apocalypse show where the premise is that all of a sudden all technology (specifically anything that uses electricity) just stops working and nobody knows why. The show takes place 15 years into the apocalypse. The US has Balkanized into various regional states (although you don't learn this until later). Some regions have devolved into chaos while others have basically reverted to a steam-punk type of society. Since all modern ships use electricity, they've begun to revive large ships from the age of sail. The remnants of the US military at Guantanamo Bay eventually return to the mainland and try to reestablish a much more explicitly authoritarian control over the US. You eventually learn that what caused the global blackout was the creation of a self-replication nanotech which rapidly spread across the planet and shut off all electricity.

                                    Great premise, but it got too much into the soap-opera CW-style of writing and didn't last more than 2 seasons.

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                                    It was such a good show, but man did they just keep pushing it

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                                      Reign of fire. Don't know if that's what you were referencing in the picture but it's immediately what came to mind when I saw the drawing.

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                                      Dude yes, I was so hyped for it, but it really underdelivered

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                                        Hey, I'm upvoting you and all but I gotta ask how do you do the spoiler thing? I'm using Apollo and it made me click to expand your comment so I could see the spoiler part. How did you format it?

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                                        It took me a few tries, but the format that was recommended to me by SoleInvictus in this comment appeared to work.

                                        https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/14390647

                                        Ironically it doesn't work as well in my own app because the app keeps trying to change the formatting to its own syntax, but it seems to work for the most people of all spoiler options.

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                                          Eragon.

                                          There is a reason that most fans pretend the film never happened

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