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  • J [email protected]

    Note that these, too, have a German name, which translates to "inner taint-lips". Just calling them "labia" in English is not just defaulting to Latin but also imprecise.

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    Why taint though? O.o

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      For some guys it might well be light years away.

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      • J [email protected]

        kept the English terms for anatomy.

        Please tell me where I can find out about the original English words for these things.

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        Ask a cunning linguist?

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        • Y [email protected]

          To be fair, it would be easier if English had kept the English terms for anatomy.

          But for some reason everyone decided to only use Latin and Greek derived words.

          Like seriously. Nearly every time I look at Wikipedia for anything, English articles only ever use scientific terms hardly anyone will find useful.

          Example:

          Wolf's entire biological taxonomical tree from species to order. Both the translated German Wikipedia title and the English one:

          Species: Wolf <> Wolf

          Genus: Wolf- and Jackal-like <> Canis

          Tribe: True Dogs <> Canini

          Family: Dogs <> Canidae

          Suborder: Doglike <> Caniformia

          Order: Predatory animal <> Carnivora

          Ask someone what "Caniformia" is and most would probably think you're talking about some region on the US West Coast. Ask someone what "Doglike" refers to and most would probably guess reasonably correct.

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          Ask someone what "Caniformia" is and most would probably think you're talking about some region on the US West Coast.

          You're obviously talking about noobs who aren't watching TierZoo 😎

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          • P [email protected]

            I see all these stupid boyfriend/stupid husband stuff, and I can't help but think maybe my ex wife was just jealous of her friends that had stupid men in their lives.

            And maybe I'm just overqualified for relationships. I mean, shit, that was the advice my brother gave me: "I get along with people because they're much smarter than me." One of the first red flags I remembery ex wife telling me was "you know you don't have to be so smarty all the time."

            Ok, no, I can't even lie to myself that well, can you imagine? Being overqualified for dating lol

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            Can confirm, people generally prefer their version of reality over truth and knowledge. Spend a life aquiring knowledge and love teaching people just to learn they don't really love learning how things actually are. Who knew people love to be told they are right, even if that's not the case. X(

            Funnily enough, when you are in a situation with someone who you have discussed for example immigration with and someone else more stupid than them starts going off about immigrants and you just start ranting the same shit as them, this seems to get number one suddenly thinking a lot more about how ridiculous you look when you so it.

            Know more tricks like this, let me know. 😉

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              Indeed, but it’s as accurate as saying ones scrotum is dick.

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              Vagina is (mostly) inside, so it's more like saying testes (or balls) when we mean scrotum plus everything inside that.

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              • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zipT [email protected]

                Vagina is (mostly) inside, so it's more like saying testes (or balls) when we mean scrotum plus everything inside that.

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                "oooh yeah play with my testes a little bit"

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                  For some guys it might well be light years away.

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                  So weird to hear this. Like the whole area just isn’t that big, surely eventually most people stumble into it even if they aren’t making an effort…

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                  • Y [email protected]

                    To be fair, it would be easier if English had kept the English terms for anatomy.

                    But for some reason everyone decided to only use Latin and Greek derived words.

                    Like seriously. Nearly every time I look at Wikipedia for anything, English articles only ever use scientific terms hardly anyone will find useful.

                    Example:

                    Wolf's entire biological taxonomical tree from species to order. Both the translated German Wikipedia title and the English one:

                    Species: Wolf <> Wolf

                    Genus: Wolf- and Jackal-like <> Canis

                    Tribe: True Dogs <> Canini

                    Family: Dogs <> Canidae

                    Suborder: Doglike <> Caniformia

                    Order: Predatory animal <> Carnivora

                    Ask someone what "Caniformia" is and most would probably think you're talking about some region on the US West Coast. Ask someone what "Doglike" refers to and most would probably guess reasonably correct.

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                    I got confused because i initially read that as Worf instead of Wolf, and i thought that it was weird trying to make a point with a Star Trek character.

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                    • Y [email protected]

                      I don't have an issue with using scientific names in scientific contexts if you intend to publish something international researchers should be able to parse. But just like maths, there is no problem in just... translating names? Imagine if you had to phrase sentences like: "The numerus realis make up a copia infinita." You'd have to translate Latin every time new studens would be taught because most mathematical terms convey a decent amount of information.

                      What I do have an issue with is using these terms anywhere outside of international contexts.

                      A doctor should not tell their patient they have a "humerus" fracture. In German they would take about the upper arm bone.

                      Or imagine if a doctor told you there is an infection in your digitus pedis. Fortunately English didn't replace the term "toes" with its scientific one... YET.

                      Hell, I could even apply this to doctor names in English which require a dictionary for anyone trying to parse them. I had to look up half of them by the way.

                      Children's Doctor <> Pediatrician

                      Women's Doctor <> Gynecologist

                      Tooth Doctor <> Dentist (the least bad in my opinion - at least it's short)

                      Eye Doctor <> Optometrist

                      Neck-Nose-Ear Doctor <> Otorhinolaryngologist (wtf???)

                      Skin Doctor <> Dermatologist

                      Like, surely there must have been (native) English terms for those doctors in the past. It's not like the medical field popped into existence in the 1700's. You can't tell me a 15th century English peasent used Latin/Greek derived names for common specialized doctors.

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                      "ear-nose-throat" is commonly used in English.

                      And it kind of is like the medical field popped into existence in the 1700s.

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                        To be fair, it would be easier if English had kept the English terms for anatomy.

                        But for some reason everyone decided to only use Latin and Greek derived words.

                        Like seriously. Nearly every time I look at Wikipedia for anything, English articles only ever use scientific terms hardly anyone will find useful.

                        Example:

                        Wolf's entire biological taxonomical tree from species to order. Both the translated German Wikipedia title and the English one:

                        Species: Wolf <> Wolf

                        Genus: Wolf- and Jackal-like <> Canis

                        Tribe: True Dogs <> Canini

                        Family: Dogs <> Canidae

                        Suborder: Doglike <> Caniformia

                        Order: Predatory animal <> Carnivora

                        Ask someone what "Caniformia" is and most would probably think you're talking about some region on the US West Coast. Ask someone what "Doglike" refers to and most would probably guess reasonably correct.

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                        Yet another thing that could be fixed by better education in the US.

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                          Why taint though? O.o

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                          It's an old term for the sexual organs that's only used as part of terms these days. I tried to kinda match that. My translation wasn't great, though.

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                          • gratefullygodless@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                            I got confused because i initially read that as Worf instead of Wolf, and i thought that it was weird trying to make a point with a Star Trek character.

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                            "Mr. Worf, set course to the Vulva region on Labia Minora 4"

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                            • Y [email protected]

                              To be fair, it would be easier if English had kept the English terms for anatomy.

                              But for some reason everyone decided to only use Latin and Greek derived words.

                              Like seriously. Nearly every time I look at Wikipedia for anything, English articles only ever use scientific terms hardly anyone will find useful.

                              Example:

                              Wolf's entire biological taxonomical tree from species to order. Both the translated German Wikipedia title and the English one:

                              Species: Wolf <> Wolf

                              Genus: Wolf- and Jackal-like <> Canis

                              Tribe: True Dogs <> Canini

                              Family: Dogs <> Canidae

                              Suborder: Doglike <> Caniformia

                              Order: Predatory animal <> Carnivora

                              Ask someone what "Caniformia" is and most would probably think you're talking about some region on the US West Coast. Ask someone what "Doglike" refers to and most would probably guess reasonably correct.

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                              I disagree, using Latin terms means that all technical terms stay the same across languages.

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                              • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                I have a fwend in Rome by that name!

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                                He has a wife, you know!

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                                • J [email protected]

                                  It's an old term for the sexual organs that's only used as part of terms these days. I tried to kinda match that. My translation wasn't great, though.

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                                  Oh, okay. Thanks for the explanation

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                                  • P [email protected]

                                    Eye Doctor <> Optometrist

                                    Perfect example of why that is a bad approach. An Optometrist can measure your eyes for basic vision problems and monitor your retina issues, but you'd need an Ophthalmologist if you need surgery on those eyes for something the Optometrist finds.

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                                    Optometrists/opticians aren't doctors over here though. They belong to the trades. This field doesn't exist in Germany the same way it does in the US/Britain:

                                    Optometric tasks are performed by ophthalmologists and professionally trained and certified opticians.

                                    Wikipedia

                                    Eye doctors does actually refer to ophthalmologist though, I picked the "wrong" translation which ignores the differing legal frameworks. Looking back, I certainly went to the full blown ophthalmologist just for optometric purposes.

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                                    • P [email protected]

                                      "ear-nose-throat" is commonly used in English.

                                      And it kind of is like the medical field popped into existence in the 1700s.

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                                      Partially. In German, the term eye doctor has first been recorded in 1401 (ougenarzt) (according to Wikipedia).

                                      The 1700's made enormous medical progress - but it's not like people prior to that had no need for specialized doctors. For example, according to etymonline the term "dentist" was first used in 1759. You can't tell me dentists didn't exist for many centuries prior to that and didn't have an "English-derived", self-explanatory term. I mean, I never knew "dent" was Latin for tooth until reading the etymology just now.

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                                        Partially. In German, the term eye doctor has first been recorded in 1401 (ougenarzt) (according to Wikipedia).

                                        The 1700's made enormous medical progress - but it's not like people prior to that had no need for specialized doctors. For example, according to etymonline the term "dentist" was first used in 1759. You can't tell me dentists didn't exist for many centuries prior to that and didn't have an "English-derived", self-explanatory term. I mean, I never knew "dent" was Latin for tooth until reading the etymology just now.

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                                        Sure, but many of those words for specialised doctors came to English through French, not directly from Latin or Greek. And I don't think that you can reasonably argue that English words with French origins aren't by now a native part of the language. We use many of the same names in Dutch too, coming from French loanwords.

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                                          I disagree, using Latin terms means that all technical terms stay the same across languages.

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                                          This doesn't apply to most other fields though.

                                          In physics, only the abbreviations are (mostly) the same internationally. But the full terms are always translated into languages, despite being equally as technical.

                                          In math, no terms are international - only the specification of formulas is standardized.

                                          Music is the exception but their field belonged to elitist pricks for most of history tbf.

                                          Art (painting) uses translated terms everywhere from what I can tell. There are no translated terms for paints, canvas type, style, periods etc.

                                          History certainly doesn't use international terms either. Medieval, stone age, bronze age, modern age etc. are all translated into each language.

                                          Amd frankly, I don't see why anatomy has to use international terms whatsoever while other fields can use translated terms without any issue.

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