Graffiti seen in Barcelona, Catalonia
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..no, that's just what I said is not the case. You must have misread?
You sound like a slave complimenting his owner for being such a kind-hearted masser who treats him good
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And in there lies the rub. You can have somewhere cheap to stay, but the cost of housing go up everywhere. Or, you pay the extra hundred, and housing is more affordable for everyone.
This is what I mean by the scalper argument. Everyone wants a playstation, and some will 3 and 4 times the price for it. So now no one gets one, because the scalper buy up all the stock. In this case, you want to save 100 bucks. The knock on effect of that is that is that it contributes to increased cost of housing, and millions of people not being able to afford one.
I wouldnt worry too much. Looking at me downvotes, no one wants to blame you anyway. They are happy to just blame airbnb, and demand government regulation. Its pretty pathetic really.
True. I suppose it's more of me placing the blame on large landlord corporations that own 20+ spaces to rent out rather than the AirBnB host with two houses. My local community is much more affected by the former than the latter. Is it the other way around in touristy towns outside the USA? I haven't used any AirBnB abroad.
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So? Then they shouldn't have gotten real estate to begin with if they can't afford a house. A person who relies on renting property to make a living are leaches living off the working class.
You do realise normal people have mortgages, right? I don't know why everyone has just assumed I'm taking about landlords here...
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You sound like a slave complimenting his owner for being such a kind-hearted masser who treats him good
oh that's so sweet, you think i'm naïve
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You think capitalism is the problem, yes? If so, we are in agreement.
yes. Capitalism is the problem, not landlords per se. Under capitalism, I feel like it is more ethical to rent out a spare room in one's house than it is to not rent it out.
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Have you never chosen to boycott a company before? I won't go to Chick-fil-A for any reason. It doesn't matter if the franchisee holds the exact same level of hatred for lgbtq+. The fact that it isn't a disqualifier is enough for me. Not all MAGAts are pedophiles but the fact that they can excuse it for other reasons in their head means I don't fucking talk to those people. So yeah, you giving money to horrible people makes me think of you a certain way.
That's a fine conclusion, I don't expect us to agree after all. I think I better understand where you are at after all this conversation. Thank you for having it with me. You are going for abstaining. My big focus has been reduction. I do need to travel or my mental state just gets bad. It doesn't help that I'm stuck living in this state via a multi-year contract.
And as for boycotting, only a few places completely; Chick-fil-A, Hobby Lobby, and many other places. The rest is significant reduction. WalMart, Amazon, McDonalds, etc I will use rarely (maybe twice a year) and have been funneling a lot more of my finances to the local grocery Co-Op that primarily stocks local farm goods, Etsy, and locally owned restaurants. Similar to not adopting veganism, but eating a lot less beef, adding in vegetarian meals, and mostly going with fish for protein.
I support as much local as I can afford to, and that is more than I can ask for from others. Intentions matter more to me than the rest, because it can be worked with. Hope you have a great day!
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Can you link to the news you refer to? I also seem to haven't read it
https://www.npr.org/2025/06/16/nx-s1-5434829/spain-tourism-protests-water-pistols-barcelona-mallorca
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/08/travel/barcelona-tourism-protests-scli-intl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-p-YGNXEnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo6L4dYVRUw
And to top it all off, "TOURISTS GO HOME" is one of the common slogans they use.
Not gonna visit barcelona any time soon with this toxic attitude.
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That's a fine conclusion, I don't expect us to agree after all. I think I better understand where you are at after all this conversation. Thank you for having it with me. You are going for abstaining. My big focus has been reduction. I do need to travel or my mental state just gets bad. It doesn't help that I'm stuck living in this state via a multi-year contract.
And as for boycotting, only a few places completely; Chick-fil-A, Hobby Lobby, and many other places. The rest is significant reduction. WalMart, Amazon, McDonalds, etc I will use rarely (maybe twice a year) and have been funneling a lot more of my finances to the local grocery Co-Op that primarily stocks local farm goods, Etsy, and locally owned restaurants. Similar to not adopting veganism, but eating a lot less beef, adding in vegetarian meals, and mostly going with fish for protein.
I support as much local as I can afford to, and that is more than I can ask for from others. Intentions matter more to me than the rest, because it can be worked with. Hope you have a great day!
That's fair I often go a little too hardcore in my boycotts, and realize I'm left with little to no options in picking up something I need. No Walmart, no Menards, no amazon, and try to avoid target, luckily I've found a few small shops around town that I didn't know existed, simply cause I had to find some things for the house.
Once while driving through the middle of nowhere I found myself getting hungry and all they had was a McDonald's and a dumpy looking gas station. So I passed on and wound up regretting it cause the next town of any significant size was nearly 80 miles away and I found myself getting lightheaded and my vision started getting hazy. Luckily I passed a town with a clean looking gas station before I got to the bigger town and I discovered the magic that is Casey's pizza.
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Ban landlord culture and property prices drop.
Kinda sucks for those already with a mortgage. Defending rental culture because someone might lose out now only guarantees that an ever increasing majority lose out in the future.
"Concerns" like this is why the housing situation will never be fixed. Guess what? Fixing the housing crisis will always means stopping it from being a profitable investment.
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People who can no longer afford their mortgages would disagree with you.
“Concerns” like this is why the housing situation will never be fixed. Guess what? Fixing the housing crisis will always means stopping it from being a profitable investment.
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Funny how we vilify those who are renting it out, but not those that are renting. Its the scalper argument all over again. Blaming the seller, but not the buyer who creates the market. If no one rents, then no one is going to buy to set up an airbnb.
I'm sorry that I can't afford to buy a house. Where the fuck else am I supposed to live if not rent? Victim blaming 101.
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Aww that's so sweet. They really enjoyed their stay at the AirBnB.
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I'm sorry that I can't afford to buy a house. Where the fuck else am I supposed to live if not rent? Victim blaming 101.
Ok... What the fuck are you slabbering about? I was standing up for you, moron. I shouldnt have bothered. You deserve to stuck in rentsville with dog shit reading skills like that. Hope they put up more Airbnb, just to fuck YOU over more.
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People who can no longer afford their mortgages would disagree with you.
what mortgages? shelter must be a right. people shouldn't be allowed to own other people's homes. everyone should be provided with housing by paying taxes or being covered by social aid systems.
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In Seattle we call these studio apartments, I learned reading this thread that it's not a normal thing. My friends that live in one can't cook without their bed absorbing the smell.
Yeah in the pnw it's gotten a little dystopian to say the least
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That's fair I often go a little too hardcore in my boycotts, and realize I'm left with little to no options in picking up something I need. No Walmart, no Menards, no amazon, and try to avoid target, luckily I've found a few small shops around town that I didn't know existed, simply cause I had to find some things for the house.
Once while driving through the middle of nowhere I found myself getting hungry and all they had was a McDonald's and a dumpy looking gas station. So I passed on and wound up regretting it cause the next town of any significant size was nearly 80 miles away and I found myself getting lightheaded and my vision started getting hazy. Luckily I passed a town with a clean looking gas station before I got to the bigger town and I discovered the magic that is Casey's pizza.
The correct answer isn't left for us to easily choose, but Casey's pizza is one of those cboices. I'd reccomend trying the breakfast pizza with gravy sauce if you have an opportunity sometime.
Keep fighting your fight, and I'll keep pushing on mine. I'm getting close to helping some coworkers see how the economy they voted for is getting worse. I wish I could make basic human rights be more important to them, but The Machine is built to counter that specifically. I'll take what I can get.
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https://www.npr.org/2025/06/16/nx-s1-5434829/spain-tourism-protests-water-pistols-barcelona-mallorca
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/08/travel/barcelona-tourism-protests-scli-intl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-p-YGNXEnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo6L4dYVRUw
And to top it all off, "TOURISTS GO HOME" is one of the common slogans they use.
Not gonna visit barcelona any time soon with this toxic attitude.
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Not gonna visit barcelona any time soon with this toxic attitude.
There was a comment here along the lines of ‘make tourists not want to come and your problem is solved’, maybe they want to be toxic to scare everyone off. If that's the case, I hope they will find out if it worked the way they wanted
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thanks to fuckhead illegal hotel owners
Wrong fight, wrong enemies
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I have a pretty good landlord. This isn't an ACAB situation. The problem is the market, IMO, if not capitalism entirely; even if you got rid of landlords (made it illegal to have tenants), housing prices would still be too high to buy a house. Supply-side or demand-side economics are the only viable solution under capitalism.
Blaming the landlord is more of a meme. Don't take it seriously
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You have to realise that landlords aren't the plague. They're the buboes. A symptom.
If you can take your spare money (a concept from days gone by, I know), buy a house for X, rent it out for Y a month, then finally sell it in 20 years for Z, and be 99.99% guaranteed to make more money from it than you can from pretty much any other source, then why wouldn't you?
Remove the incentive for that (homes that don't go up by more than the inflation rate), there will be no need for them to exist.
But in any case, the size of the building projects required would likely be government level anyway, and they can be the "landlord" for anyone not wanting to buy. This was called council houses in the olden days, before Maggie Thatcher killed that.
spare money
I hate you
