Don't fix the problem just change the parameters
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Every year I taught for the past 30 years I have heard this but I will say that every year I had to go over how to read a clock at the beginning of the year and every time a kid would ask me what time it is I would point at the clock and ask them what time they think it is? At least they left the class knowing how to read a clock even though they were shit at writing essays.
About thirty years ago I was a teen. I remember talking with a girl only a few years younger than me, and being astounded that she didn’t know how to read an analogue clock.
Exactly as you indicated, this is nothing new.
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From your hatred for alphabets
I totally misunderstood your point. You disagreed with the guy who said only diagnosed disabilities should be treated with respect so I thought you agreed with me when I said unrelated skills shouldn't be discriminate against. Apparently the discrimination never was an issue for you. I am once again disappointed in humanity.
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If the yung-uns have no drive to turn back time and actually use and develop their brains, because my gen isn't going to rescue them and the boomers have also fallen into the internet trap. It's on them to save themselves, really.
If these trends keep going the way they are then idiocracy becomes reality.
We are already there
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Teenagers not being able to tell the time from analogue clocks is CRAZY (saying this as a teenager myself)
Of course it's crazy but in our current clown world they are not dumb but somehow victims
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Being older (mid fifties) I was taught the analogue clock.
My eyes no longer work so well for reading, and an analogue clock face allows you to see the hands and know the time without having to work out where I've left my glasses.
On my phone's sleep screen I'm using large high contrast digits so I guess I'm using both styles.
Also much easier to visualise time deltas on a clock face.But the point wasn't about vision but the simple intelligence needed to read an analog clock
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Learning to read the clock was like… A couple of lessons and some homework in the 2nd grade, and everyone got it.
Yes, this meme is pretty obviously fake.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/schools-removing-analog-clocks/
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We are not removing clocks or the standards, but it is not as important as many other standards in my grade level and 3rd grade. As a joke, I am going to bring a kid to our intervention team who can't tell time as his only academic issue. We will all get a good laugh out of it.
Every 2nd/3rd grade teacher I've worked with believes their students can tell time by the end of the year. This being said, regression is a well known phenomenon in education over breaks, but this is regression is due to analog clocks disappearing in society I assume and devastating to a newly acquired skill. Here are the 2nd grade standards, I would say this and counting money have become completely unsupported at home in my Title 1 school. Most teachers I have ever met care about kids and want them to learn, but there is only so much to do. They spend a lot more time out of school in their childhood than other places. Do the math!
2.OA.A Adding/Subtracting within 100 word problem and representations
2.OA.B Memorizing add/sub facts to 20
2.OA.C Equal groups (building blocks for multiplication)
2.NBT.A Place value (broken into 4 substandards, its kind of really fucking important)
2.NBT.B Place value (broken into 4 more substandards, its kind of really fucking important)
2.MD.A Measure and estimate in metric and standard (broken into 4 substandards, it is kind of really fucking important)
2.MD.B Addition and Subtraction in relation to length
2.MD.C Time to nearest 5 minutes and money
2.MD.D Interpreting graphs2.G Shapes and Attributes
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The way they taught us cursive was the complete opposite of the intent of cursive. Rigidly proscribed characters with marks only for form, ignoring all function. It was agonizingly tedious and physically painful writing all of those nonsensical scrawls. I immediately switched back to my own chicken scratch after grade school because it was not only orders of magnitude faster, but at least didn't make my hand painfully seize up into a claw.
Decades later, as my handwriting evolved, a number of my own script letters began to resemble those wretched cursive runes, because I had apparently blindly stumbled upon the actual correct method for writing to flow from nib to parchment, as opposed to whatever those torturous rituals scarred me with as a child.
The problem you describe is very real, and not just in the US or the UK, but in most of Europe as well. A big part of writing is how to actually write, not just the letters et al.
I mean the literal way you move you arm, the angle you write at, how you hold you pen, etc.
I didn't learn any of that, and as an intensely dyslexic and left-handed individual, writing was extremely painful to me. That is, until 10th grade where I taught myself calligraphy.
It turns out that, when learning calligraphy, you do learn how to write properly.
After that, my handwriting in school (and for the rest of my life) became much better: I didn't have hand-pain anymore, I didn't smudge the ink, and, of course, my handwriting was very orderly and neat. Teachers even started commenting on it!
Most notably for me though: writing became fun. For me, as a dyslexic, this literally felt revolutionary.
Anyway, that is what I think they should teach in schools.
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Being older (mid fifties) I was taught the analogue clock.
My eyes no longer work so well for reading, and an analogue clock face allows you to see the hands and know the time without having to work out where I've left my glasses.
On my phone's sleep screen I'm using large high contrast digits so I guess I'm using both styles.
Also much easier to visualise time deltas on a clock face.Something like 30 years ago analogue clocks seemed to be dominant. Does that mean you lived through childhood and adolescence without reading time?
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45 year old here...I'm pretty sure I've never bought an analog clock and I think it would be weird for a school—or any place, really—to have one. I'm not surprised kids don't learn outdated technology and anybody who is mad about it should pick up a slide rule.
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If the yung-uns have no drive to turn back time and actually use and develop their brains, because my gen isn't going to rescue them and the boomers have also fallen into the internet trap. It's on them to save themselves, really.
If these trends keep going the way they are then idiocracy becomes reality.
Idiocracy won't happen.
The smart people aren't going to prepare a solution. And the planet will probably cook before then anyway.
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I totally misunderstood your point. You disagreed with the guy who said only diagnosed disabilities should be treated with respect so I thought you agreed with me when I said unrelated skills shouldn't be discriminate against. Apparently the discrimination never was an issue for you. I am once again disappointed in humanity.
I'm not really sure what you're talking about, but I think you might be missing context. When I said he's using text-to-speech I don't mean he's blind, I mean he can't read. Cuz in a different thread he corrected when I typed "U" and replied "*you". And he keeps saying "read again" that's why I said that? Is this what you meant?
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I had to check the community to verify I accidentally opened c/fakeconservativememes.
It was a relief when I realized this wasn't c/Lemmy Shitpost.
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Throughout middle school and high school, my bedroom clock was one of these, just the mechanism, no face, no numbers, hanging off the edge of a shelf. I had no trouble reading it. I still can easily read an analog clock with no numbers or any face marks.
Congratulations!
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45 year old here...I'm pretty sure I've never bought an analog clock and I think it would be weird for a school—or any place, really—to have one. I'm not surprised kids don't learn outdated technology and anybody who is mad about it should pick up a slide rule.
Every school i have been in has them, even last week. Many lesson plans include analog clock stuff because its another way to deal with fractions, and help kids learn analog in case they are in an old building or subway/airport that has analog clocks.
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Schools removing books as teenagers cannot read them.
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It could be to deal with learning disabilities not the average kid which makes it mostly false.
Also a recommendation doesn’t mean it happened.
My son has down syndrome, he did better with analog because you can see the motion and time left in an hour, whereas digital was abstract and he didn't really grasp 47 was getting close to 60 etc.
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Next schools will start removing textbooks because students cannot read. They will replace with audio books.
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Imagine falling for this boomer rage bait when half the details are obviously and clearly censored.
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I'm 35. Math major. Work in STEM. Well educated.
I hate analogue clocks. Why use subpar way of reading time if digital is so much better?
They are actually a helpful way to show passage of time visually, without abstract math knowledge. For example my son has downsydrome, he could read time from analog and understand passage of time and time left on it, but numbers counting up to 60 was abstract.. Like its 47 minutes past 5 how close to the hour is it getting? No clue unless he wrote it out as a math question and did the subtraction. But for him those were meaningless numbers anyway. 15 was no different than 45 for him. But visual cues of quarter past and quarter to made sense for him
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Its also cool to just be able to build a physical mechanism which digital clocks have no real feasible option to do
i am delighted to be able to introduce you to flip clocks.
I love flip clocks
