Other meaning for USA people
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Now, using "Americans" to refer to everyone over here did exist before the U.S., going back to at least the 1500s. I think that was only in use in English, I've never looked up what was used in French and Spanish back then. But since the USA came into being as country, it has been the default term for US citizens colloquially.
Confidently wrong. US leaders didn't start referring to its citizens as americans or its country as america until ~1900.
I know you won't read the book I linked, and are going off of white-supremacist vibes, so here's an article for everyone else about the history of this imperialist usage.
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IDGAF about what leaders called it/us. That's almost irrelevant.
But other people in the world absolutely were using the term American to refer to citizens of the US before the 1900s.
I'm also not sure why you insist on staying on this tangent when the conversation was about current usage.
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Getting you to read is impossible. Stop white-supremacist vibing and actually read about its historical usage. I even linked you an article, which I know you didn't read.
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Dude, stop with the ad hominem bullshit.
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Thank you for the information. Guess I can't joke about being a gringo lol
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Being a native, a Yankee to me is a New Englander. My Spanish friend had to gently explain to me, “shut up, you’re all yanquis.”
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it was difficult writing it too...
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Yeah thanks. I said pseudo because I do t really know the meaning of these words apart from vic3, nor do I know of anyone from the americas
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other people in the world absolutely were using the term American to refer to citizens of the US before the 1900s.
I mean, a few, I imagine. There's always been people saying shit wrong. Would help your case if you actually had a source and not just a vibe to refute an evidence based position.
By population, however, most of the world isn't the anglosphere. Spanish speakers, which is most of America, by and large call you "Estadunidenses" whenever it's not "gringo". A good chunk of us also speak English and object to gringos colonizing "america" much like Indonesians or Indians or Malaysians probably would have if Japan decided it was "Asia".
You might not have decided that we speak English, but the same government that made it a necessity for us in the global south to learn the language is the one that decided to steal that term. Language matters.
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Given that you're the native, you should gently explain to the colonial that they are the ones who are wrong.
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Eh, NY has the Yankees sports team but they are not part of New England and I'd say a good portion of the country would say NY has no Yankees in it besides the team.
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Sounds like that fight was lost 100 years ago.
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Thing is, it's "United States of America", much like "United States of Mexico" and, before 1968, "United States of Brazil". So when they call themselves americans, they're technically correct.
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Call them murican. Everyone gets it, even the usa-ians
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i just call them USian when i don't care to be a bit cheeky.
like you call yourself after the entire continent, am i supposed to take it seriously?
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That's the reason I didn't say New England.
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Ya tu sabé
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Not really. Most americans aren't native english speakers, and still consider themselves americans. They don't roll over and let the US coopt that term.
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Being a native from The South, "Yankee" to me means anybody from the area above the Mason Dixon line. Full disclosure, I'm not proud to be from The South. However, I do find many Yankees to be at least a little bit rude by my standards. So, the designation stands in my head.
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I think you should reread what I said, I don't think your response makes sense vs my statement.
