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  • V [email protected]

    Their cars are pretty good. That is not the problem.

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    I've heard mixed stuff, like some people saying it's plastic and stuff and only serviceable via Tesla if things go wrong?

    Others I know have driven it for years and have been happy except the whole Musk shit which leads to your point.

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      Their cars are pretty good. That is not the problem.

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      After having seen other manufacturer’s cars at similar prices points, I must say, I disagree.

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        After having seen other manufacturer’s cars at similar prices points, I must say, I disagree.

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        I'm sure there's a bit of subjectivity and having gotten used to it. But the ones I've tried as replacement for my Model Y haven't impressed me.

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          yeah, no evidence other than spreading antisemitism on x and litterær fucking heiling /s

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          well, his family, too. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/26/elon-musk-peter-thiel-apartheid-south-africa

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            I've heard mixed stuff, like some people saying it's plastic and stuff and only serviceable via Tesla if things go wrong?

            Others I know have driven it for years and have been happy except the whole Musk shit which leads to your point.

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            I’ve heard mixed stuff, like some people saying it’s plastic and stuff

            This is mostly true. I cannot say if it's more or less plastic than competition. Doesn't seem that different to my non-car-experienced eyes.

            and only serviceable via Tesla if things go wrong?

            I don't think this is true.

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              I've heard mixed stuff, like some people saying it's plastic and stuff and only serviceable via Tesla if things go wrong?

              Others I know have driven it for years and have been happy except the whole Musk shit which leads to your point.

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              My brother has a model 3. It's a nifty car. The advanced cruise control (not their FSD) is better than the Blue-Cruisr in my Ford, and works on more roads. Build quality seems about the same TBH, although my brother may just have a good example. The Tesla charging network is expansive, and would be a major point to the Model 3, but other cars can charge there now, even older models can do it with an adapter.

              Ergonomics-wise, I think the Ford is much better. Better controls on the steering wheel, has a "gauge cluster" instead of putting important info on the center display away from the driver's line of sight, and it's easier to open the doors, both from the outside, inside, and in the case of emergencies.

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              • V [email protected]

                I’ve heard mixed stuff, like some people saying it’s plastic and stuff

                This is mostly true. I cannot say if it's more or less plastic than competition. Doesn't seem that different to my non-car-experienced eyes.

                and only serviceable via Tesla if things go wrong?

                I don't think this is true.

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                I don’t think this is true.

                Yeah, it's why I added a question mark.

                I've had one friend say because it's electronic that only Tesla can fix certain things? Maybe I misunderstood maybe they meant that because it's under warranty where the dealership should be fixing it.

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                  Will he really need customers much longer? I mean it seems like he can just have any government agency replace their fleet with his trash in the name of "efficiency".

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                  Apparently a big part of Tesla's business is selling carbon credits to other automakers... Which relies on them having a certain number of EV sales. If they drop below a threshold, then they can't sell those credits anymore.

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                  • D [email protected]

                    Seriously?

                    This is exactly what this polarizing title intended to do. Attract people like you who relativise the atrocities Hitler has done. Populism is a bitch and you're falling right for it.

                    Just give me a informative article with normal title and stop filling Lemmy with all of this clickbaity populistic shit that helps nobody. I'm tired of it and tired of discussing it too.

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                    Relatively speaking, Hitler was one of the worst people to ever live! And the richest man alive today idolizes him.

                    Imagine if Mansa Musa and Hitler teamed up! The world needs to not experience that!

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                      The audacity calling me a Nazi. You don't know anything about me. Rekativising the atrocities Hitler has done by using Nazism as a common term. You don't know anything.

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                      Kicked dog hollers.

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                      • W [email protected]

                        Sounds like a creepy place

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                        Your not wrong, it's infuriating to see more of them

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                          Yeah but that's the logic that the climate change denies also used.

                          "Global warming can't be real, as it snowed yesterday"

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                          Fair point, I live in a red county so more is kind of expected I suppose

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                          • P [email protected]

                            Elon has always been a terrible person, but he was once focused on things that society actually needed, like electrifying transportation to avoid climate collapse.

                            He seems to have gone sharply downhill into total insanity by taking ketamine while locking himself in a rightwing echo chamber. It’s the perfect storm of dissociating from reality.

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                            probably his upbringing. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/26/elon-musk-peter-thiel-apartheid-south-africa

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                              Fuck off with this sea-lioning bullshit. The Nazi salute and AFD promotion were intentional news.

                              Seriously, what are you getting out of this? It's like arguing the sky isn't blue.

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                              Its ironic that when reading another thread about the motivation behind this gesture, 'having taken too much Ketamine' was one of the more innocent suggested explanations! What a World!

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                                Its to move the Overton window. It is clear the Elon gave a "Roman" Nazi salute. There are forces trying to control the narrative. Gaslight. Obstruct. Project.

                                Deny. Defend. Depose.

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                                I had to google Overton window, (I learnt something) and your comment sounds plausible

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                                  Will he really need customers much longer? I mean it seems like he can just have any government agency replace their fleet with his trash in the name of "efficiency".

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                                  He tied the financing of his loan to buy Twitter with Tesla shares, if they tank it pressures the Saudis to call in the billions they loaned him for the purchase. He'd survive, but it would embarrass him which would be funny.

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                                    probably his upbringing. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/26/elon-musk-peter-thiel-apartheid-south-africa

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                                    Plenty of people have shitty parents and turn out fine. That’s no excuse at all.

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                                      I don’t think this is true.

                                      Yeah, it's why I added a question mark.

                                      I've had one friend say because it's electronic that only Tesla can fix certain things? Maybe I misunderstood maybe they meant that because it's under warranty where the dealership should be fixing it.

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                                      It's not locked in such a way that only Tesla can do it, but it can be hard to find places that will service them. Especially smaller shops just don't want to go through the hassle of figuring it out, and figuring out how to order parts and such, at least where I live.

                                      Basically, it is going to depend on the shops near you and while Tesla doesn't seem to actively prevent it I think they make it enough of a hassle for other shops that it may be true in some places that you can only rely on them for repairs.

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                                      • V [email protected]

                                        I'm sure there's a bit of subjectivity and having gotten used to it. But the ones I've tried as replacement for my Model Y haven't impressed me.

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                                        How do you feel about owning a Nazi car? Any feelings around that? Curious about your feelings or anyone else owning a Tesla right now.

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                                          For the Americans that don't know the word Nazism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism?wprov=sfla1

                                          Although he has right-wing ideologies, there is no evidence of Elon Musk being a Nazi. A car can't be a Nazi either.

                                          I'm tired of all of the populism and strong headlines on Lemmy. Actual factual journalism gets burried deep in the feed.

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                                          Let's look through your own Wikipedia link.

                                          Nazism [...] [has] disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system.

                                          The union hating, multi-million dollar lobbying, vote-bribing billionaire totally supports actual democracy guys, trust me!

                                          Its beliefs include support for dictatorship

                                          He actively supports Trump's unitary executive theory and related policy goals.

                                          antisemitism

                                          Elon supporting an antisemetic tweet

                                          anti-communism

                                          He blames communism for making his trans daughter mad at him

                                          anti-slavism

                                          He actively supports stopping aid to Ukrainians and ceding their land to Russia

                                          scientific racism

                                          white supremacy

                                          Nordicism

                                          Here's him spreading scientific racism that claims people of European descent are superior

                                          homophobia

                                          Elon refuses to enforce Twitter's policies against homophobia and transphobia

                                          ableism, and the use of eugenics

                                          Elon is a techno-eugenicist

                                          ultranationalism

                                          white supremacy

                                          He regularly promotes white nationalists online

                                          The only very few, specific categories I didn't find any explicit mentions of him doing in my 10 minutes of searching around were anti-Romani sentiment and social darwinism, and you'd be hard pressed to prove that everyone you'd probably otherwise consider a Nazi throughout history believed every single possible bullet point in this Wikipedia page.

                                          If all this doesn't make him a Nazi, then I don't know what does.

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