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  • F [email protected]

    Will he really need customers much longer? I mean it seems like he can just have any government agency replace their fleet with his trash in the name of "efficiency".

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    Apparently a big part of Tesla's business is selling carbon credits to other automakers... Which relies on them having a certain number of EV sales. If they drop below a threshold, then they can't sell those credits anymore.

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      Seriously?

      This is exactly what this polarizing title intended to do. Attract people like you who relativise the atrocities Hitler has done. Populism is a bitch and you're falling right for it.

      Just give me a informative article with normal title and stop filling Lemmy with all of this clickbaity populistic shit that helps nobody. I'm tired of it and tired of discussing it too.

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      Relatively speaking, Hitler was one of the worst people to ever live! And the richest man alive today idolizes him.

      Imagine if Mansa Musa and Hitler teamed up! The world needs to not experience that!

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        The audacity calling me a Nazi. You don't know anything about me. Rekativising the atrocities Hitler has done by using Nazism as a common term. You don't know anything.

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        Kicked dog hollers.

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          Sounds like a creepy place

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          Your not wrong, it's infuriating to see more of them

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            Yeah but that's the logic that the climate change denies also used.

            "Global warming can't be real, as it snowed yesterday"

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            Fair point, I live in a red county so more is kind of expected I suppose

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              Elon has always been a terrible person, but he was once focused on things that society actually needed, like electrifying transportation to avoid climate collapse.

              He seems to have gone sharply downhill into total insanity by taking ketamine while locking himself in a rightwing echo chamber. It’s the perfect storm of dissociating from reality.

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              probably his upbringing. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/26/elon-musk-peter-thiel-apartheid-south-africa

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              • throbbing_banjo@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                Fuck off with this sea-lioning bullshit. The Nazi salute and AFD promotion were intentional news.

                Seriously, what are you getting out of this? It's like arguing the sky isn't blue.

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                Its ironic that when reading another thread about the motivation behind this gesture, 'having taken too much Ketamine' was one of the more innocent suggested explanations! What a World!

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                  Its to move the Overton window. It is clear the Elon gave a "Roman" Nazi salute. There are forces trying to control the narrative. Gaslight. Obstruct. Project.

                  Deny. Defend. Depose.

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                  I had to google Overton window, (I learnt something) and your comment sounds plausible

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                  • F [email protected]

                    Will he really need customers much longer? I mean it seems like he can just have any government agency replace their fleet with his trash in the name of "efficiency".

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                    He tied the financing of his loan to buy Twitter with Tesla shares, if they tank it pressures the Saudis to call in the billions they loaned him for the purchase. He'd survive, but it would embarrass him which would be funny.

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                      probably his upbringing. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/26/elon-musk-peter-thiel-apartheid-south-africa

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                      Plenty of people have shitty parents and turn out fine. That’s no excuse at all.

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                        I don’t think this is true.

                        Yeah, it's why I added a question mark.

                        I've had one friend say because it's electronic that only Tesla can fix certain things? Maybe I misunderstood maybe they meant that because it's under warranty where the dealership should be fixing it.

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                        It's not locked in such a way that only Tesla can do it, but it can be hard to find places that will service them. Especially smaller shops just don't want to go through the hassle of figuring it out, and figuring out how to order parts and such, at least where I live.

                        Basically, it is going to depend on the shops near you and while Tesla doesn't seem to actively prevent it I think they make it enough of a hassle for other shops that it may be true in some places that you can only rely on them for repairs.

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                          I'm sure there's a bit of subjectivity and having gotten used to it. But the ones I've tried as replacement for my Model Y haven't impressed me.

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                          How do you feel about owning a Nazi car? Any feelings around that? Curious about your feelings or anyone else owning a Tesla right now.

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                            For the Americans that don't know the word Nazism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism?wprov=sfla1

                            Although he has right-wing ideologies, there is no evidence of Elon Musk being a Nazi. A car can't be a Nazi either.

                            I'm tired of all of the populism and strong headlines on Lemmy. Actual factual journalism gets burried deep in the feed.

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                            Let's look through your own Wikipedia link.

                            Nazism [...] [has] disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system.

                            The union hating, multi-million dollar lobbying, vote-bribing billionaire totally supports actual democracy guys, trust me!

                            Its beliefs include support for dictatorship

                            He actively supports Trump's unitary executive theory and related policy goals.

                            antisemitism

                            Elon supporting an antisemetic tweet

                            anti-communism

                            He blames communism for making his trans daughter mad at him

                            anti-slavism

                            He actively supports stopping aid to Ukrainians and ceding their land to Russia

                            scientific racism

                            white supremacy

                            Nordicism

                            Here's him spreading scientific racism that claims people of European descent are superior

                            homophobia

                            Elon refuses to enforce Twitter's policies against homophobia and transphobia

                            ableism, and the use of eugenics

                            Elon is a techno-eugenicist

                            ultranationalism

                            white supremacy

                            He regularly promotes white nationalists online

                            The only very few, specific categories I didn't find any explicit mentions of him doing in my 10 minutes of searching around were anti-Romani sentiment and social darwinism, and you'd be hard pressed to prove that everyone you'd probably otherwise consider a Nazi throughout history believed every single possible bullet point in this Wikipedia page.

                            If all this doesn't make him a Nazi, then I don't know what does.

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                              For the Americans that don't know the word Nazism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism?wprov=sfla1

                              Although he has right-wing ideologies, there is no evidence of Elon Musk being a Nazi. A car can't be a Nazi either.

                              I'm tired of all of the populism and strong headlines on Lemmy. Actual factual journalism gets burried deep in the feed.

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                              I disagree. He's done enough that calling him a Nazi feels accurate to me. Or at least enough of a Nazi sympathizer that I totally support not doing business with him.

                              What I get frustrated by is justifying hurting the people that have his cars. Having a Tesla does not make one a Nazi sympathizer. You could maybe make the case that buying one today might, but even then I don't think it's justified attacking people for having a car.

                              If you want to be an extremist about it, hurt the dealerships and the company. Don't go after people who are almost certainly not that different from you. The people keying cars just want to feel smugly superior to someone and feel morally justified for being an asshole, they don't want to make anything better for anyone. If that's how you act, you're just a fascist with a slightly different ideology.

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                                For the Americans that don't know the word Nazism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism?wprov=sfla1

                                Although he has right-wing ideologies, there is no evidence of Elon Musk being a Nazi. A car can't be a Nazi either.

                                I'm tired of all of the populism and strong headlines on Lemmy. Actual factual journalism gets burried deep in the feed.

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                                Oh fuck off, bootlicker.

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                                  Since when does being right-wing make you a Nazi?

                                  Nazi's are far-right to the extreme, Musk and Trump are Right-Wing. Nothing more. Disagreeing with them doesn't make them Nazi's and calling them Nazi's actually says more about that persons intolerance than they think it does.

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                                    Since when does being right-wing make you a Nazi?

                                    Nazi's are far-right to the extreme, Musk and Trump are Right-Wing. Nothing more. Disagreeing with them doesn't make them Nazi's and calling them Nazi's actually says more about that persons intolerance than they think it does.

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                                      How do you feel about owning a Nazi car? Any feelings around that? Curious about your feelings or anyone else owning a Tesla right now.

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                                      Yeah that's the number one reason I'm looking at other cars right now. So you could say I have some feelings about that.

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                                        its not the death of the electric car. Its the death of a bad one.

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                                          Since when does being right-wing make you a Nazi?

                                          Nazi's are far-right to the extreme, Musk and Trump are Right-Wing. Nothing more. Disagreeing with them doesn't make them Nazi's and calling them Nazi's actually says more about that persons intolerance than they think it does.

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                                          You won't but you should watch this
                                          https://youtu.be/xDyPSKLy5E4?si=5gDaBVeGsFFwIBRz

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