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  • P [email protected]

    Elon has always been a terrible person, but he was once focused on things that society actually needed, like electrifying transportation to avoid climate collapse.

    He seems to have gone sharply downhill into total insanity by taking ketamine while locking himself in a rightwing echo chamber. It’s the perfect storm of dissociating from reality.

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    probably his upbringing. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/26/elon-musk-peter-thiel-apartheid-south-africa

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      Fuck off with this sea-lioning bullshit. The Nazi salute and AFD promotion were intentional news.

      Seriously, what are you getting out of this? It's like arguing the sky isn't blue.

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      Its ironic that when reading another thread about the motivation behind this gesture, 'having taken too much Ketamine' was one of the more innocent suggested explanations! What a World!

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        Its to move the Overton window. It is clear the Elon gave a "Roman" Nazi salute. There are forces trying to control the narrative. Gaslight. Obstruct. Project.

        Deny. Defend. Depose.

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        I had to google Overton window, (I learnt something) and your comment sounds plausible

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          Will he really need customers much longer? I mean it seems like he can just have any government agency replace their fleet with his trash in the name of "efficiency".

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          He tied the financing of his loan to buy Twitter with Tesla shares, if they tank it pressures the Saudis to call in the billions they loaned him for the purchase. He'd survive, but it would embarrass him which would be funny.

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            probably his upbringing. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/26/elon-musk-peter-thiel-apartheid-south-africa

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            Plenty of people have shitty parents and turn out fine. That’s no excuse at all.

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              I don’t think this is true.

              Yeah, it's why I added a question mark.

              I've had one friend say because it's electronic that only Tesla can fix certain things? Maybe I misunderstood maybe they meant that because it's under warranty where the dealership should be fixing it.

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              It's not locked in such a way that only Tesla can do it, but it can be hard to find places that will service them. Especially smaller shops just don't want to go through the hassle of figuring it out, and figuring out how to order parts and such, at least where I live.

              Basically, it is going to depend on the shops near you and while Tesla doesn't seem to actively prevent it I think they make it enough of a hassle for other shops that it may be true in some places that you can only rely on them for repairs.

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                I'm sure there's a bit of subjectivity and having gotten used to it. But the ones I've tried as replacement for my Model Y haven't impressed me.

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                How do you feel about owning a Nazi car? Any feelings around that? Curious about your feelings or anyone else owning a Tesla right now.

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                  For the Americans that don't know the word Nazism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism?wprov=sfla1

                  Although he has right-wing ideologies, there is no evidence of Elon Musk being a Nazi. A car can't be a Nazi either.

                  I'm tired of all of the populism and strong headlines on Lemmy. Actual factual journalism gets burried deep in the feed.

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                  Let's look through your own Wikipedia link.

                  Nazism [...] [has] disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system.

                  The union hating, multi-million dollar lobbying, vote-bribing billionaire totally supports actual democracy guys, trust me!

                  Its beliefs include support for dictatorship

                  He actively supports Trump's unitary executive theory and related policy goals.

                  antisemitism

                  Elon supporting an antisemetic tweet

                  anti-communism

                  He blames communism for making his trans daughter mad at him

                  anti-slavism

                  He actively supports stopping aid to Ukrainians and ceding their land to Russia

                  scientific racism

                  white supremacy

                  Nordicism

                  Here's him spreading scientific racism that claims people of European descent are superior

                  homophobia

                  Elon refuses to enforce Twitter's policies against homophobia and transphobia

                  ableism, and the use of eugenics

                  Elon is a techno-eugenicist

                  ultranationalism

                  white supremacy

                  He regularly promotes white nationalists online

                  The only very few, specific categories I didn't find any explicit mentions of him doing in my 10 minutes of searching around were anti-Romani sentiment and social darwinism, and you'd be hard pressed to prove that everyone you'd probably otherwise consider a Nazi throughout history believed every single possible bullet point in this Wikipedia page.

                  If all this doesn't make him a Nazi, then I don't know what does.

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                    For the Americans that don't know the word Nazism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism?wprov=sfla1

                    Although he has right-wing ideologies, there is no evidence of Elon Musk being a Nazi. A car can't be a Nazi either.

                    I'm tired of all of the populism and strong headlines on Lemmy. Actual factual journalism gets burried deep in the feed.

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                    I disagree. He's done enough that calling him a Nazi feels accurate to me. Or at least enough of a Nazi sympathizer that I totally support not doing business with him.

                    What I get frustrated by is justifying hurting the people that have his cars. Having a Tesla does not make one a Nazi sympathizer. You could maybe make the case that buying one today might, but even then I don't think it's justified attacking people for having a car.

                    If you want to be an extremist about it, hurt the dealerships and the company. Don't go after people who are almost certainly not that different from you. The people keying cars just want to feel smugly superior to someone and feel morally justified for being an asshole, they don't want to make anything better for anyone. If that's how you act, you're just a fascist with a slightly different ideology.

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                      For the Americans that don't know the word Nazism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism?wprov=sfla1

                      Although he has right-wing ideologies, there is no evidence of Elon Musk being a Nazi. A car can't be a Nazi either.

                      I'm tired of all of the populism and strong headlines on Lemmy. Actual factual journalism gets burried deep in the feed.

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                      Oh fuck off, bootlicker.

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                        Since when does being right-wing make you a Nazi?

                        Nazi's are far-right to the extreme, Musk and Trump are Right-Wing. Nothing more. Disagreeing with them doesn't make them Nazi's and calling them Nazi's actually says more about that persons intolerance than they think it does.

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                          Since when does being right-wing make you a Nazi?

                          Nazi's are far-right to the extreme, Musk and Trump are Right-Wing. Nothing more. Disagreeing with them doesn't make them Nazi's and calling them Nazi's actually says more about that persons intolerance than they think it does.

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                            How do you feel about owning a Nazi car? Any feelings around that? Curious about your feelings or anyone else owning a Tesla right now.

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                            Yeah that's the number one reason I'm looking at other cars right now. So you could say I have some feelings about that.

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                              its not the death of the electric car. Its the death of a bad one.

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                                Since when does being right-wing make you a Nazi?

                                Nazi's are far-right to the extreme, Musk and Trump are Right-Wing. Nothing more. Disagreeing with them doesn't make them Nazi's and calling them Nazi's actually says more about that persons intolerance than they think it does.

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                                You won't but you should watch this
                                https://youtu.be/xDyPSKLy5E4?si=5gDaBVeGsFFwIBRz

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                                • B [email protected]

                                  Nobody at Tesla headquarters voted to alienate their customer base. No board meeting decided to turn their electric car company into a political lightning rod.

                                  This is technically not true. The board keeps Elon Musk on as CEO of Tesla, and they granted him the biggest bonus package ever, while he was already very controversial and clearly was losing his mind, because they thought he would be able to make them money.

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                                  You are 100% correct. They knowingly doubled down on him. They can all ride his coattails straight to hell.

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                                    Since when does being right-wing make you a Nazi?

                                    Nazi's are far-right to the extreme, Musk and Trump are Right-Wing. Nothing more. Disagreeing with them doesn't make them Nazi's and calling them Nazi's actually says more about that persons intolerance than they think it does.

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                                    Its not intolerance to refuse to support them. Being far right makes you a liar and bigot at the very least. I haven't seen one example of a decent human being who considers themselves far right.

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                                      its not the death of the electric car. Its the death of a bad one.

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                                      Teslas are actually pretty good from what I've seen.

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                                        I'd take one, lol.

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                                          Since when does being right-wing make you a Nazi?

                                          Nazi's are far-right to the extreme, Musk and Trump are Right-Wing. Nothing more. Disagreeing with them doesn't make them Nazi's and calling them Nazi's actually says more about that persons intolerance than they think it does.

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                                          People really hate nazis my guy so even doing shit as a joke pisses people off. Its not cute its fuckin fighting words

                                          I'd say I hate nazis about 3000% more than republicans hate immigrants

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