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Yep! The Ryzen 5 7640U. It's never immediately, it generally takes several minutes, maybe just bringing up a Tumblr page with a video and letting it loop for several minutes might hopefully do it, though, I've had a crash when Tumblr wasn't the active tab so you can multitask if you're fine with suddenly getting booted.

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Ooh I didn't know that KDE has touchpad gesture support now, I'll need to give that a go next time I try linux

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Yeah same machine I have. Forgive my ignorance -- I've actually not used Tumblr very much. Could you link me to a page with a looping video? Somehow I'm having trouble finding a non-gif video at the moment.

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How about https://www.tumblr.com/cute-catts/766377029924962304/this-keeps-him-busy-for-the-rest-of-the-night

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Then you shouldnt have picked wayland, period. There is a reason its still experimental. And in general, hearing you talk, im not sure linux is your thing in general. Even in linux mint i have to poke in cli once in a while..

EDIT: as i mentioned below,i just gave it another go as i recently upgraded linux mint. Keyboard layout was stuck to us so altgr didnt work. Teams window could also not be double clicked to maximize and remote desktop via remmina was acting odd, like my mouse had shifted to the right. Desktop wallpaper was also shifted. Like i said, experimental on some systems ( in this case linux mint )

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Hey, funny that you mentioned the Thinkpad. I'm between getting a Thinkpad and the Framework 13. Would you perhaps share things that for your personal preference were downsides in the Thinkpad?

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Via TB4? If I'm not mistaken Oculink eGPU adapter is only possible with the Framework 16. It may worth waiting to perhaps get the new Arrow Lake with a discrete TB5

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Wayland hasn't been experimental for a while. Both KDE Plasma and GNOME have defaulted to Wayland for a while now indicating it's ready to be used.
And in fact, scaling works better on Wayland than on X11 but I suppose ymmv.

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I had the same display failure, but 4 times in about 9 months. It made me pretty done with the whole thing.
I only got the laptop back from the repair centre 2 or so weeks ago but I have no faith the issue is properly fixed now. Let's see how it turns out, if it happens again I'm going to throw this thing out of the window.

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I know a few distros have switched, and i support it 1000%!
I know ive had a few glitches in linux mint which suggests they need to fix some stuff with cinnamon in wayland still ( and a few other apps ), hence my stance towards wayland atm. I love every piece of it but imma wait a liiiitle longer. The reason i think op's issues came from either wayland or fedora because on debian-based distros ive had no issues on my framework 16, nor on the framework 13's that are at the office ( ubuntu, linux mint, windows )

Edit: just gave it another go as i recently upgraded linux mint. Keyboard layout was stuck to us so altgr didnt work. Teams window could also not be double clicked to maximize and remote desktop via remmina was acting odd, like my mouse had shifted to the right. Desktop wallpaper was also shifted. Like i said, experimental on some systems

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nice, that sounds great

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yes, that would be via TB4 for now...

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Yay, It's always gonna be Yay

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My T14 is a great machine. The keyboard is excellent, and its Linux support it great, too. However the screen is pretty bad and has a bad ratio for coding, it always looks dirty because its black shell shows all the oil from your fingerprints. If something breaks out of warranty, you're pretty much SOL. Whereas with the Framework, I can upgrade and fix any component, up to and including the mainboard/CPU.

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Hmm, so I left that link above running in an active Firefox tab for about an hour and a half and didn't see any crashes. I'm wondering again if you may have an obscure hardware issue. Either that or perhaps Fedora recently pushed out an update that fixed that issue. In any case I hope this might help to know. Have a good day!

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Hmm, so I left that link above running in an active Firefox tab for about an hour and a half and didn’t see any crashes. I’m wondering again if you may have an obscure hardware issue. Either that or perhaps Fedora recently pushed out an update that fixed that issue. In any case I hope this might help to know. Have a good day!

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Got it, the performance in the the TB4 for eGPU isn't very good, with a degradation of 30% or more in some cases

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I was like batch 5 of the AMD framework 13 running Arch and Gnome on it.

I did have some problems with suspend/nvme drive that was fixed by replacing the nvme. If you go with their drive you'll probably be fine (I just grabbed one I had laying around). Ever since then the laptop is perfect. If you do get it check out the Archwiki article that has a lot of helpful tips for tuning your OS to the Hardware

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This was my failure.

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Yup, that's the exact same problem I had. And I heard more stories of people having this problem. It's bad...

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