framework 13 AMD... yay or nay?

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Via TB4? If I'm not mistaken Oculink eGPU adapter is only possible with the Framework 16. It may worth waiting to perhaps get the new Arrow Lake with a discrete TB5

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Wayland hasn't been experimental for a while. Both KDE Plasma and GNOME have defaulted to Wayland for a while now indicating it's ready to be used.
And in fact, scaling works better on Wayland than on X11 but I suppose ymmv.

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I had the same display failure, but 4 times in about 9 months. It made me pretty done with the whole thing.
I only got the laptop back from the repair centre 2 or so weeks ago but I have no faith the issue is properly fixed now. Let's see how it turns out, if it happens again I'm going to throw this thing out of the window.

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I know a few distros have switched, and i support it 1000%!
I know ive had a few glitches in linux mint which suggests they need to fix some stuff with cinnamon in wayland still ( and a few other apps ), hence my stance towards wayland atm. I love every piece of it but imma wait a liiiitle longer. The reason i think op's issues came from either wayland or fedora because on debian-based distros ive had no issues on my framework 16, nor on the framework 13's that are at the office ( ubuntu, linux mint, windows )

Edit: just gave it another go as i recently upgraded linux mint. Keyboard layout was stuck to us so altgr didnt work. Teams window could also not be double clicked to maximize and remote desktop via remmina was acting odd, like my mouse had shifted to the right. Desktop wallpaper was also shifted. Like i said, experimental on some systems

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nice, that sounds great

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yes, that would be via TB4 for now...

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Yay, It's always gonna be Yay

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My T14 is a great machine. The keyboard is excellent, and its Linux support it great, too. However the screen is pretty bad and has a bad ratio for coding, it always looks dirty because its black shell shows all the oil from your fingerprints. If something breaks out of warranty, you're pretty much SOL. Whereas with the Framework, I can upgrade and fix any component, up to and including the mainboard/CPU.

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Hmm, so I left that link above running in an active Firefox tab for about an hour and a half and didn't see any crashes. I'm wondering again if you may have an obscure hardware issue. Either that or perhaps Fedora recently pushed out an update that fixed that issue. In any case I hope this might help to know. Have a good day!

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Hmm, so I left that link above running in an active Firefox tab for about an hour and a half and didn’t see any crashes. I’m wondering again if you may have an obscure hardware issue. Either that or perhaps Fedora recently pushed out an update that fixed that issue. In any case I hope this might help to know. Have a good day!

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Got it, the performance in the the TB4 for eGPU isn't very good, with a degradation of 30% or more in some cases

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I was like batch 5 of the AMD framework 13 running Arch and Gnome on it.

I did have some problems with suspend/nvme drive that was fixed by replacing the nvme. If you go with their drive you'll probably be fine (I just grabbed one I had laying around). Ever since then the laptop is perfect. If you do get it check out the Archwiki article that has a lot of helpful tips for tuning your OS to the Hardware

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This was my failure.

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Yup, that's the exact same problem I had. And I heard more stories of people having this problem. It's bad...

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Ok but you're talking about Cinnamon. Cinnamon's Wayland support is experimental sure, but that doesn't mean Wayland itself is. I mentioned KDE Plasma and GNOME because they are the ones using Wayland for the longest now and have the best support for it and there it works better than X11.

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You are correct. Its just that wayland is not as cut and dry of "everyone should switch to wayland, it works 100%" because thats not true.
Ye, my comment should have been "wayland support is experimental on some distros" and not "wayland is experimental" to be more correct but hey, if people could stop shouting at me to switch to wayland because it just works, id be happy.

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Be very sure you pick the new 2.8k display version.

Why? I mean why is this so important?

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So does Cinnamon, and I think GNOME as well.
They're configurable, too!

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The distros aren't the problem, the DE's are. Otherwise yeah agreed

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