Mexican President Threatens to Sue Google Over 'Gulf of America' Label on Maps.
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Alternatives are just not good enough
And to no fault of their own of course. They just aren't working with the same resources as Google and the others.
I think it's more a question of stepping down our level of comfort at this point. Can we live without a particular service that Google provides, when there are no alternatives with feature parity? Or can we live with the fact that some of the features aren't working as well or missing, and use the alternatives anyway?
Exactly. If there were perfectly interchangeable alternatives, there would have been a true competition and those companies wouldn't be holding the amount of power they do today in the first place.
Moving to alternatives requires some degree of effort and giving up on some microconforts. There's no other way. There's no fight without any pain. If we want to fight those companies, we must sacrifice those micro conforts, even if that means reducing tech use as a whole and doing a few things the "old fashioned" way.
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Well, the continent was named America, not the US continent. So the name Gulf of America just sounds right.
Following your logic Lake Michigan should be renamed Lake America. There's a bunch of lakes up there, do they all get renamed Lake of America? Seems confusing!
Here's a list of all the gulfs in the Americas:
North America
- Gulf of Mexico
- Gulf of Alaska
- Gulf of California (Sea of Cortes)
- Gulf of St. Lawrence
- Gulf of Honduras
- Gulf of Panama
- Gulf of Tehuantepec
Central and South America
- Gulf of Darien (Colombia and Panama)
- Gulf of Venezuela
- Gulf of Guayaquil (Ecuador)
Following your logic, they're all badly named because that's just named after the region they're in, not the content.
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That's literally what I said my dude, you're just arguing semantics over the use of "renaming"
It's not at all what you just said. Because it's not renaming.
I honestly don't know how to make this any simpler to digest for you. The EO changes the way the Gulf of Mexico is referenced in official correspondence for the Federal Government. It does not change the name for anyone but the federal government. That's not the same as renaming it. The US doesn't own it and can't rename it.
Google is a Government contractor and is required to follow US policy to keep those contracts, which is why they've also changed it...
Truly I can't make it any simpler.
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Because it's relevant to the region you're looking at and I'm pretty sure the UK hasn't taken a firm/legal stance either way. Also not sure how your comment is supposed to relate to my point? Mexico doesn't have any more right to tell other countries what to call the Gulf than the US or any other country that's totally outside of any sane jurisdiction
There is an international maritime treaty that has taken a firm legal stance. Trump is defying it.
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Republicans are so good at baiting liberals into useless bullshit arguments, while they plunder stuff that actually matters.
Dems and useless virtue-signaling. Name a better duo
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I'm not ignoring it. I'm saying it's just a name. I will continue to call it the Gulf of Mexico for the rest of my life, or probably just "the Gulf". I never used another term for French fries, # is still a pound sign, and I'm not going to worry about this.
You are ignoring it, because you won't address what I said about Denali and forts named after Confederate generals.
You apparently didn't even bother reading what I wrote.
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But it kinda makes sense to be called Gulf of America since it's located in North America.
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But it kinda makes sense to be called Gulf of America since it's located in North America.
It also kind of makes sense to leave the name in place since the world has been calling it the "Gulf of Mexico" mid-1500s. The original name was in reference to the Aztecs.
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There is an international maritime treaty that has taken a firm legal stance. Trump is defying it.
Can you site something for what you're talking about?
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It's not at all what you just said. Because it's not renaming.
I honestly don't know how to make this any simpler to digest for you. The EO changes the way the Gulf of Mexico is referenced in official correspondence for the Federal Government. It does not change the name for anyone but the federal government. That's not the same as renaming it. The US doesn't own it and can't rename it.
Google is a Government contractor and is required to follow US policy to keep those contracts, which is why they've also changed it...
Truly I can't make it any simpler.
I said it renames the part the US controls, this argument of renaming the entire thing is a figment of your imagination, or you're replying to the wrong message. Replace "renamed" with "named" in my sentence and then you have no leg to stand on. Your example is stupid, china is not "a part the US controls", please do not engage in replying to my comments if you're just going to strawman me.
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You are ignoring it, because you won't address what I said about Denali and forts named after Confederate generals.
You apparently didn't even bother reading what I wrote.
Whatever. Enjoy your rant. It's going to be a fun four years for you
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I wish i could add childishness to my pihole blacklist.
Seriously, think about what you are angry about here. Is this what matters to you?
I feel like people who care about something this stupid are either shills for trump or just too damn stupid to see a bigger picture. I'm the latter case I guess I have to give it to Trump: he threw a bone that idiots couldn't pass up.
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I said it renames the part the US controls, this argument of renaming the entire thing is a figment of your imagination, or you're replying to the wrong message. Replace "renamed" with "named" in my sentence and then you have no leg to stand on. Your example is stupid, china is not "a part the US controls", please do not engage in replying to my comments if you're just going to strawman me.
I said it renames the part the US controls
Okay, and yet again (and for the last time) this is incorrect. It doesn't rename anything.
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It also kind of makes sense to leave the name in place since the world has been calling it the "Gulf of Mexico" mid-1500s. The original name was in reference to the Aztecs.
It's also the country that has the majority of the coastline
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Republicans are so good at baiting liberals into useless bullshit arguments, while they plunder stuff that actually matters.
I mean it's Mexico. I wouldn't really consider them "liberal".
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My phone is a Pixel on Google Fi, and I have a YouTube premium account. I've got a lot of work ahead of me
lolCheck out c/[email protected], they have some software recommendations for degoogling.
Since you have a Pixel you should be able to install GrapheneOS, which removes a lot of Google services and is a lot more secure.
I would also recommend FreeTube, which is ad-free and has the feature to download videos like YT premium. You can even import your subscriptions.
Welcome to the rabbit hole of degoogling.
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Google also removed the ability to suggest edits to specifically the Gulf.
Guess they knew ahead of time they'd get an influx of requests to change or back.
They hadn't removed that ability as of Thursday evening, because I was able to give feed back. My guess is they got a rash of hate messages similar to mine and decided to remove it because of that. I hate them so much right now, but Google is unfortunately the forefront service for my online life. So much I do with Google apps that I really can't get in any one other place.
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Following your logic Lake Michigan should be renamed Lake America. There's a bunch of lakes up there, do they all get renamed Lake of America? Seems confusing!
Here's a list of all the gulfs in the Americas:
North America
- Gulf of Mexico
- Gulf of Alaska
- Gulf of California (Sea of Cortes)
- Gulf of St. Lawrence
- Gulf of Honduras
- Gulf of Panama
- Gulf of Tehuantepec
Central and South America
- Gulf of Darien (Colombia and Panama)
- Gulf of Venezuela
- Gulf of Guayaquil (Ecuador)
Following your logic, they're all badly named because that's just named after the region they're in, not the content.
Not badly named, I just don't see anything wrong renaming it to the Gulf of America. It's like renaming the South China Sea to South East Asia Sea.
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Showing with both names does not make it any better and I'm not sure why you think it does. They're just kowtowing to a unilateral decision made by one of the multiple countries that border the Gulf of Mexico.
I assume you would not want Taiwan to be called Chinese Taipei on Google Maps despite China calling it that.
Woah, who said Iâm fine with that? Iâm Mexican and very much resent the idiocy of Trump, but our president is also an idiot who âthreatensâ to do something, but can assure you she will not actually do anything.
IMO sheâs posturing to her base, but she says she might go against Google because she doesnât dare to go against Trump, and she needs to look like sheâs doing something.
Meanwhile, we have very urgent problems in Mexico like rampant crime, medicine scarcity, corruption, etc. that she doesnât even mention in her daily morning speeches.
