Why do males complain about female-led stories or too many female characters when the majority are still dominated by males?
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liking those movies doesn’t prove anything because both movies (especially the second one) just give a new spin to pretty traditional perception of women
Blatantly untrue, Ripley was written as assumed to be a man in the script and they didn't change it after the lead actor got the role as a woman.
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Titanic literally the box office champ for a decade with a female lead (close to 50-50 to be fair). Terminator 2 as well, and Mad Max Fury road, 2 of the greatest action movies of all time (you can fight me but, name aside, that story is all about Furiosa). Those movies work because the female leads are just good. The selling point isn't that they have women in them, the selling point is they are really really good movies.
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To prove this point, The Marvels was received better than Captain Marvel, and it had 3x as many women in leading roles
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I think it's cool, but I also really like strong women so.......
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I know, I've even heard of pages missing from paperbacks published by reputable print houses here in sweden
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This answer could greatly benefit from explaining how the higher-level concepts like patriarchy and privilege apply to this scenario in particular
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I recommend Onward, especially if they're a little older enough to really resonate with the ending
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This is valid but I want to non-judgmentally laugh at the concept of power creep in Paw Patrol
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I've never heard anyone complain about it unless it was a remake or different from the original story.
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Essentially the general male population don’t like females, and only tolerate them as a subservient subclass who should be seen and not heard.
This is a WILD claim to make.
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You can make an argument for it mattering in the first film as well, but that starts examining the film from a lense of Ash, Weyland Yutani, and the Xenomorph being metaphors for the patriarchy.
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It's making me get into book collecting and finding older/out-of-print editions, so at least that is a silver lining.
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I mean, look at the news; there's a LARGE number of anti-DEI people out there who would say exactly what you're complaining about.
That said, Hollywood is trying Wanda and Agatha were both very diverse. She Hulk was pretty diverse, and Wednesday was pretty mixed. Even captain marvel and ms marvel tried to fill out the stands better.
Of course, it's hard to tell what's going to happen now. Will government force the hands of the show runners to reverse the trends?
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I think genre expectations can shift if we don’t draw attention to them.
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I'm talking about my feeling from watching them and about the design of the aliens, this might have been unintentional initially in the first movie.
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I don't know. I live a good female lead. Ripley, Furiosa, Marge Gunderson. There's so many, that's just the first three that come to mind. Half the time when I'm playing Fallout, it's female characters.
There are definitely bad female leads in things, too. Just like there are bad male leads. Like, Borderlands 3, basically unplayable. I never finished it. And I really want to be clear, the characters aren't bad because they are women, they are bad due to poor writing. That game had such potential, but it felt like the script was written entirely by highschoolers.
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Is a nice site if you want to expand into Nordic/Swedish books in your collection
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Thanks! A great one is also BookFinder - there are a few versions of it, I know .com and .de and I'm sure there are others.
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This is really well written and I agree with a lot of your points...but when I read "as far back as the early 2000s" I felt about 100 years old.
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I see your nuance better now. I'm saying that diversity is not a qualifier for total artistic value. I believe it is okay to tell flawed stories as art. I do not believe that all stories should be flawed, they should be an exception not the rule.
This is where we are likely strongly aligned versus any potential for difference. I believe telling better stories is the failure of the entertainment industry. There are plenty of better stories to tell. The real prejudice is happening by the cowardice of choosing misogynistic stories to tell. Really, there is not enough value placed on the big picture abstract overview. People are playing with the trees when they should be managing the forest. Old familiar stories with foundations built in an era of a lack of diversity are ripe to abandon for a new era of better stories.