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Signal's CEO: Then We're Leaving Sweden | Sweden Herald

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  • C [email protected]

    "Leaving a country" for digital services usually means not providing services there anymore.

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    Thanks, this makes a lot more sense.
    ... i keep, time and again, searching for things, only to discover my "search goal" is not based in reality.

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    • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

      No. Thats not what the law does. Sweden doesn't do censorship.

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      The question was what Signal would do though ...

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      • M [email protected]

        That is because they just decided to switch to use it for internal communications. This means that they would have to roll back that decision.

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        It would have been good of the article to mention that important tidbit...

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          The question was what Signal would do though ...

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          Leave Sweden so they dont have to follow these regulations.

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            There are a few people in my social bubble that are not technical at all, but heard a few bad things about WhatsApp and that's why they are using Signal. Nothing more, they do not know how it works, they do not know who provides it.

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            And now they'll hear something bad about Signal and move on as they did with WhatsApp, as per your example.

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            • cygnus@lemmy.caC [email protected]

              It would have been good of the article to mention that important tidbit...

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              It happened like 2 weeks ago so I will forgive them for missing it.

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              • S [email protected]
                • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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                It’s worth noting that mullvad is based in Sweden

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                  • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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                  I don't get how its supposed to work...they want to require messengers to include backdoors in their software? So when a program is FOSS, then you can literally just use it knowing there is no backdoor..also, what blocks you from using a server in different country? Wtf that even means...

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                  • H [email protected]

                    It’s worth noting that mullvad is based in Sweden

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                    No wonder they pussied out and removed port forwarding

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                    • L [email protected]

                      Proton is swiss

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                      Uuh... Ok? How is that relevant?

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                        Proton is swiss

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                        #39

                        And gobbles Trump's knob publicly.

                        They won't need a law to force compliance.

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                          It’s worth noting that mullvad is based in Sweden

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                          Mullvad has proven time and time again that they don't log anything at all. Even if they give backdoor access, there's nothing to record.

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                          • m137@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                            Uuh... Ok? How is that relevant?

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                            Directly.

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                              And gobbles Trump's knob publicly.

                              They won't need a law to force compliance.

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                              Sci-fi writing in here I see

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                                • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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                                There needs to be a messaging app which provides a backdoor for every government that requests it. Every time some dumbfuck legislator asks for a super-giga-secure-backdoor they promise not to misuse, they should be directed to that app.

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                                  • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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                                  I'm not familiar with EU law, but wouldn't this set a precidence across the whole EU?

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                                  • A [email protected]

                                    Mullvad has proven time and time again that they don't log anything at all. Even if they give backdoor access, there's nothing to record.

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                                    Literally the first sentence of the article: "The government wants Signal and Whatsapp to be forced to store messages sent using the apps."

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                                    • cygnus@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                                      I'm a bit surprised that the armed forces are openly opposing this, but good for them!

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                                      Don't know if it's a trustworthy source, but:

                                      https://cornucopia.se/2025/02/forsvarsmakten-infor-krav-pa-signal-for-samtal-och-meddelanden/

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                                        • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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                                        Meanwhile, the Swedish Armed Forces recently decided to use Signal for secure communication: https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/aktuellt/2025/02/forsvarsmakten-anvander-appen-signal-for-oppen-kommunikation-med-mobiltelefoner/

                                        🙄

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                                        • G [email protected]

                                          Don't know if it's a trustworthy source, but:

                                          https://cornucopia.se/2025/02/forsvarsmakten-infor-krav-pa-signal-for-samtal-och-meddelanden/

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                                          It's posted on their own site:

                                          https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/aktuellt/2025/02/forsvarsmakten-anvander-appen-signal-for-oppen-kommunikation-med-mobiltelefoner/

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