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Signal's CEO: Then We're Leaving Sweden | Sweden Herald

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  • V [email protected]

    There are a few people in my social bubble that are not technical at all, but heard a few bad things about WhatsApp and that's why they are using Signal. Nothing more, they do not know how it works, they do not know who provides it.

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    thats not the target audience, thankfully.

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      thats not the target audience, thankfully.

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      The target audience is everybody with a Smartphone.

      The majority of people in my signal contacts are there because someone (sometimes me) pushed them to use it instead of WhatsApp.

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        "Leaving a country" for digital services usually means not providing services there anymore.

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        Thanks, this makes a lot more sense.
        ... i keep, time and again, searching for things, only to discover my "search goal" is not based in reality.

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        • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

          No. Thats not what the law does. Sweden doesn't do censorship.

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          The question was what Signal would do though ...

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            That is because they just decided to switch to use it for internal communications. This means that they would have to roll back that decision.

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            It would have been good of the article to mention that important tidbit...

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              The question was what Signal would do though ...

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              Leave Sweden so they dont have to follow these regulations.

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              • V [email protected]

                There are a few people in my social bubble that are not technical at all, but heard a few bad things about WhatsApp and that's why they are using Signal. Nothing more, they do not know how it works, they do not know who provides it.

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                And now they'll hear something bad about Signal and move on as they did with WhatsApp, as per your example.

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                • cygnus@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                  It would have been good of the article to mention that important tidbit...

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                  It happened like 2 weeks ago so I will forgive them for missing it.

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                    • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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                    It’s worth noting that mullvad is based in Sweden

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                      • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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                      I don't get how its supposed to work...they want to require messengers to include backdoors in their software? So when a program is FOSS, then you can literally just use it knowing there is no backdoor..also, what blocks you from using a server in different country? Wtf that even means...

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                        It’s worth noting that mullvad is based in Sweden

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                        No wonder they pussied out and removed port forwarding

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                        • L [email protected]

                          Proton is swiss

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                          Uuh... Ok? How is that relevant?

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                            Proton is swiss

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                            And gobbles Trump's knob publicly.

                            They won't need a law to force compliance.

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                              It’s worth noting that mullvad is based in Sweden

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                              Mullvad has proven time and time again that they don't log anything at all. Even if they give backdoor access, there's nothing to record.

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                              • m137@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                Uuh... Ok? How is that relevant?

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                                Directly.

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                                  And gobbles Trump's knob publicly.

                                  They won't need a law to force compliance.

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                                  Sci-fi writing in here I see

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                                    • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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                                    There needs to be a messaging app which provides a backdoor for every government that requests it. Every time some dumbfuck legislator asks for a super-giga-secure-backdoor they promise not to misuse, they should be directed to that app.

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                                      • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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                                      I'm not familiar with EU law, but wouldn't this set a precidence across the whole EU?

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                                      • A [email protected]

                                        Mullvad has proven time and time again that they don't log anything at all. Even if they give backdoor access, there's nothing to record.

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                                        Literally the first sentence of the article: "The government wants Signal and Whatsapp to be forced to store messages sent using the apps."

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                                        • cygnus@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                                          I'm a bit surprised that the armed forces are openly opposing this, but good for them!

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                                          Don't know if it's a trustworthy source, but:

                                          https://cornucopia.se/2025/02/forsvarsmakten-infor-krav-pa-signal-for-samtal-och-meddelanden/

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