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Signal's CEO: Then We're Leaving Sweden | Sweden Herald

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  • F [email protected]

    The question was what Signal would do though ...

    jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    Leave Sweden so they dont have to follow these regulations.

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      There are a few people in my social bubble that are not technical at all, but heard a few bad things about WhatsApp and that's why they are using Signal. Nothing more, they do not know how it works, they do not know who provides it.

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      And now they'll hear something bad about Signal and move on as they did with WhatsApp, as per your example.

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      • cygnus@lemmy.caC [email protected]

        It would have been good of the article to mention that important tidbit...

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        It happened like 2 weeks ago so I will forgive them for missing it.

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        • S [email protected]
          • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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          It’s worth noting that mullvad is based in Sweden

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            • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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            I don't get how its supposed to work...they want to require messengers to include backdoors in their software? So when a program is FOSS, then you can literally just use it knowing there is no backdoor..also, what blocks you from using a server in different country? Wtf that even means...

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            • H [email protected]

              It’s worth noting that mullvad is based in Sweden

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              No wonder they pussied out and removed port forwarding

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              • L [email protected]

                Proton is swiss

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                Uuh... Ok? How is that relevant?

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                  Proton is swiss

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                  #39

                  And gobbles Trump's knob publicly.

                  They won't need a law to force compliance.

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                    It’s worth noting that mullvad is based in Sweden

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                    Mullvad has proven time and time again that they don't log anything at all. Even if they give backdoor access, there's nothing to record.

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                    • m137@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                      Uuh... Ok? How is that relevant?

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                      Directly.

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                        And gobbles Trump's knob publicly.

                        They won't need a law to force compliance.

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                        Sci-fi writing in here I see

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                          • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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                          There needs to be a messaging app which provides a backdoor for every government that requests it. Every time some dumbfuck legislator asks for a super-giga-secure-backdoor they promise not to misuse, they should be directed to that app.

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                            • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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                            I'm not familiar with EU law, but wouldn't this set a precidence across the whole EU?

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                            • A [email protected]

                              Mullvad has proven time and time again that they don't log anything at all. Even if they give backdoor access, there's nothing to record.

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                              Literally the first sentence of the article: "The government wants Signal and Whatsapp to be forced to store messages sent using the apps."

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                              • cygnus@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                                I'm a bit surprised that the armed forces are openly opposing this, but good for them!

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                                Don't know if it's a trustworthy source, but:

                                https://cornucopia.se/2025/02/forsvarsmakten-infor-krav-pa-signal-for-samtal-och-meddelanden/

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                                  • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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                                  Meanwhile, the Swedish Armed Forces recently decided to use Signal for secure communication: https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/aktuellt/2025/02/forsvarsmakten-anvander-appen-signal-for-oppen-kommunikation-med-mobiltelefoner/

                                  🙄

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                                  • G [email protected]

                                    Don't know if it's a trustworthy source, but:

                                    https://cornucopia.se/2025/02/forsvarsmakten-infor-krav-pa-signal-for-samtal-och-meddelanden/

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                                    It's posted on their own site:

                                    https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/aktuellt/2025/02/forsvarsmakten-anvander-appen-signal-for-oppen-kommunikation-med-mobiltelefoner/

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                                    • M [email protected]

                                      That is because they just decided to switch to use it for internal communications. This means that they would have to roll back that decision.

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                                      Technically only for non-classified internal communication. Classified stuff is restricted to fee discussed only using military approved locked down hardware. But still, issuing a strong recommendation for Signal above all other options when communicating using regular devices is a good thing. Lots of "regular" conversations can still leak more than you expect through metadata, timing, etc, so they trust Signal to protect that

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                                        I agree that it would destroy the reason many people use it, but they aren't outlawing Signal specifically. What they are doing is arguably worse, but this isn't an "anti-Signal" action.

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                                        • hsr@lemmy.dbzer0.comH [email protected]

                                          There needs to be a messaging app which provides a backdoor for every government that requests it. Every time some dumbfuck legislator asks for a super-giga-secure-backdoor they promise not to misuse, they should be directed to that app.

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                                          Imagine the complexity of the encryption algo with 100 different custom made backdoors!

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