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What do you believe that most people of your political creed don't?

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  • E [email protected]

    Stop out-woking one another, it's okay to be right silently in order to bring in fence sitters.

    If someone says, "my spirit animal told me late-stage capitalism is evil" welcome them to the club with open arms, focus on how you're alike and trust them to work out their faux pas over time spent among like-minded peers.

    Also cultural appropriation ≠ exploitation, we can stop clutching our collective pearls over these faux pas.

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    Cultural appropriation is specifically a method in which suppressing groups deny the cultural heritage of oppressed around. To call it a faux pas is ridiculous and ignorant

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    • ragdoll_x@sh.itjust.worksR [email protected]

      I don't like racism against white people or sexism against men. Do I think they're less urgent or worrying than bigotry directed at other groups? Sure. There's less hate against men and whites compared to other demographic groups, and bigotry against them simply doesn't have the same social or political impact due to current systemic racism and sexism being directed at other groups. But bigotry is still bigotry, and I don't like bigotry against anyone.

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      That is ignorant to what racism actually is. Racism is not just a set of unconnected rude actions towards someone but specifically exists within a cultural context that subjugates certain groups. Racism upholds that oppressive framework and racial bias in statements and beliefs help to encourage that false framing of the world. White men aren’t oppressed in the same way that a racial minority woman is and to say it is racism or sexism all the same is to downplay those specific experiences and cultural norm that holds certain groups and the individuals within those groups down.

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      • J [email protected]

        I am unsure about when it stops being moral to terminate a foetus/baby. I think it's somewhere between 6 and 14 months, but that's just my gut feeling. Some people are astonished that I would even consider that it could be after birth, but it's not like any sudden development occurs at the moment of birth.

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        I dislike criminalization at all because if a doctor at any point has to consider if they can prove that an abortion was medically necessary in a court of law, I find that to be a violation of their ability to care for their patient.

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        • J [email protected]

          Is it moral to kill a 2-year old because the parents no longer want it?

          I'm sure that abortion is fine for the first few months. After that, I am unsure either way, but I don't feel strongly enough to wish to see abortion rights curtailed at all. So this is largely academic.

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          The 2 year old can exist separately from their parent. A fetus can't, in most abortion cases.

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            Just specifying the proofs have to be solid bugs you? How weird.

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            Yeah, of course, death penalty is never acceptable and must be abolished entirely. Even setting aside that no proof of a physical event can be 100% solid, or all the other practicality arguments; even the worst rapists, murderers, terrorists and billionaires are still humans and do not deserve death.

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              Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain't dead. Remember, don't downvote for disagreements.

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              Y'all don't need to keep adding things to lgbtq or lgbt+. The q or + takes care of everything

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              • J [email protected]

                Why do you assert this? Based on what moral framework? Is it morally okay to abandon a baby to the elements after birth, in favour of the autonomy of those who would raise it?

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                Based on the moral frame work that no person has a right to another person's body parts. We don't take organs from people who haven't explicitly said they're organ donors even after death, because that axiom is held so high. If I accidently hit you with my car, I have no legal obligation to donate a kidney to you to save your life.

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                • ultragigagigantic@lemmy.mlU [email protected]

                  People should be free to vote outside the two party system secure in the knowledge that their vote will still be counted if their preference didn't win.

                  ::: spoiler Videos on Electoral Reform

                  First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

                  Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.

                  STAR voting

                  Alternative vote

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                  Mixed Member Proportional representation
                  :::

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                  Strongly agree, though is this really an unpopular take?

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                  • F [email protected]

                    I feel like one obvious answer is "stop being so eager to alienate cis straight white men"

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                    I think a lot of conversation is "men go to therapy" but therapy alone isn't enough? We kind of cast men off of having all the privilege in the world without recognizing that patriarchy hurts them too, and in lots of facets of their lives in a way that just going to a therapist once a week does not help.

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                    • comfy@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                      The white nationalist movement preys on alienated young white men (more than other groups). Creating avenues for including these people in our movement means less people we have to fight.

                      I'm not saying everyone is able to fit into our movement, or they may require so much education that we just don't have the resources to depropagandize them, but as a mass movement, more is generally better.

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                      I think the most insidious part is that the far right feeds on men's anger and negative emotions and just keeps telling them that if they go farther right, if they become more dominant alpha male, it'll make all their negative emotions go away. And then when it doesn't, they just keep pushing right.

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                      • B [email protected]

                        I am very very very left wing, but

                        Everytime I see someone say this I know without a shadow of a doubt that they're a centrist liberal.

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                        wrong, I support the green party (multi-party system, you should try it)

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                        • F [email protected]

                          I've been thinking of starting some sort of group to help with that goal-- would you be interested? I'm not sure what we could do, but I want to do something, you know? I figure the best impact I can have is to convince other people that I mostly agree with to adopt this approach, which is what I envision the group could help with.

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                          I'm curious

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                          • P [email protected]

                            wrong, I support the green party (multi-party system, you should try it)

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                            Lol, thanks for proving my point

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                            • S [email protected]

                              Huh. Mid 20th century? But that’s when America transitioned to relatively high and progressive income taxes instead of relying on tariffs. It’s also when massive state spending on education lead to a large chunk of Americans being able to care about something other than themselves, a precursor to progressivism in America and the civil rights movement.

                              If anything, I think Americans appear to want to go back to the Gilded Age, known for its massive inequality, corruption, and excessive-wealth-flaunting.

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                              He recently said something about the 20s and 30s. That's when he considered America great, apparently.

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                              • rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.caR [email protected]

                                Most of them don't even know what they want. They're told what to think and simply can't process anything on their own. Argue with one and you'll be hard pressed to find an original thought, just regurgitations of what they've been told by fox news.

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                                I've noticed this in that they can't think of their own problems. They say "they're teaching kids to be trans in school" but don't talk to their actual kids about what they're actually learning. They say "the inflation makes it impossible to buy groceries!" And they show the groceries with 3 cases of Mt dew because they don't want to think about budgeting. They say "immigrants are taking our jobs" and live in rural Missouri where there's 1 Latino in town. They aren't thinking of problems that actually effect them, they think of the problems fox news tells them to think about.

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                                • B [email protected]

                                  The DNC is the primary obstacle to progress and no progress is possible between now and when they go the way of the Whigs because of the rigged duopoly system.

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                                  The real question is how do they end? My hope is for a national dem and maybe a republican to break off to something like the working families party, something that exists, works at the ground level, but can be boosted by the optics of national politicians drawing attention to it.

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                                  • blaue_fledermaus@mstdn.ioB [email protected]

                                    Abortion is sometimes the less monstrous alternative in a horrible situation, and it should never be seen as less than that.
                                    Women should have enough social safety nets that abortion would never even cross their minds.
                                    It is mostly Capitalism with its focus on productivity and selling youth and beauty that pressures women into it, women are "freeing" themselves into Capitalistic slavery.

                                    From: "leftist" privileged cis het white guy, feel free to ignore or bash me

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                                    Alternative perspective: any time abortion us criminalized is a problem because in the case of the mother having a medical emergency, it's most ideal for the doctor to care for the patient and the patients needs. Adding any additional consideration of potential legal ramifications is clouding an already difficult situation.

                                    In addition, the way laws are written for "exceptions for the mothers life" are not, and can not ever be utilized effectively. Can it be performed if the patient will die in 7 days? What about in 4? In an hour? What if the doctor says there's a 40% chance of death? What about a 40% chance of survival? Keeping in mind that these percentages are mostly just estimates used by doctors to convey meaning to patients. What if it's just the patient losing their fertility? Or losing a limb?

                                    None of these questions can ever be effectively answered by legislature, because medicine is not so cut and dry, and therefore, any attempt by legislature to regulate abortion is effectively a ban, including for the life of the mother.

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                                    • J [email protected]

                                      Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain't dead. Remember, don't downvote for disagreements.

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                                      I believe that the vast majority of people are inherently good, and that tribalism and political divisiveness are some of the biggest issues we have to face.

                                      Political differences arise mostly from different values, fears, education (or lack thereof), etc, but most people if you get to know them believe what they do because they believe it is genuinely good. But increasingly politics is focused on vilifying others, instead of trying to understand each other.

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                                        The 2 year old can exist separately from their parent. A fetus can't, in most abortion cases.

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                                        I don't see how this makes killing a 2-year old worse than killing an 8-month old fetus.

                                        Let's keep separate these two things: the worthiness of the child to live, and the worthiness of the parent to have bodily autonomy. It seems to me that you're making the observation that the 2 year old does not violate the parent's bodily autonomy. Or are you asserting that because the child has independence, it is more intrinsically worthy to live?

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                                          I believe that the vast majority of people are inherently good, and that tribalism and political divisiveness are some of the biggest issues we have to face.

                                          Political differences arise mostly from different values, fears, education (or lack thereof), etc, but most people if you get to know them believe what they do because they believe it is genuinely good. But increasingly politics is focused on vilifying others, instead of trying to understand each other.

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                                          What's your political creed?

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