Firefox now has Terms of Use! This'll go over like a lead balloon
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Bring back ham radios.
Ah shit I'm too introverted to use my voice...
Data packets through radio?
Btw: Rattlegram is a Android/iOS app that can convert text to audio, which you can then play over a ham radio. You can use encryption before you paste the ciphertext into Rattlegram. (Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho...
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Yes, but also non existent US privacy policy. Ther the users are simply raw material for the benefit of large corporations, to make America great again. The EU at least put limits to these abuses.
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AFAIK the sync is end to end encrypted
Yes, Mozilla sync is encrypted, but your account data is sended to Alphabet (Google) and tracked by googleanalytics and google-tagmanager.
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The problem of using blink is that then you give more power to google. They are the ones developing it, so they can decide what goes in it... cough jpegxl cough...
Yes, Google can decide what goes in it, but because it's FOSS, any other can decide what to delete from it. The power of Google isn't Chromium, but the Chrome Store, it's services, and all Websites which use Google APIs. Vivaldi has less relations with Google than Mozilla/Firefox, it don't have third party investors or sponsors, like Mozilla, which depends on Google ads and money and recently also from another advertising company, loosing it's independence with it.
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Yes, Google can decide what goes in it, but because it's FOSS, any other can decide what to delete from it. The power of Google isn't Chromium, but the Chrome Store, it's services, and all Websites which use Google APIs. Vivaldi has less relations with Google than Mozilla/Firefox, it don't have third party investors or sponsors, like Mozilla, which depends on Google ads and money and recently also from another advertising company, loosing it's independence with it.
I wasn't talking about putting stuff in, I was talking about removing it. You say it's open source, but google decides what contributions are added to the main repo. Even if you fork it, if it's not in upstream, it won't be used.
Jpegxl is a really cool image format that google hates for some reason. Every major company wanted chrome to support it, amazon, facebook, etc. but google said no, and guess what, no one can do anything about it. If you use blink you're a slave to google.
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(Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho...
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Because they got a fucking licence
Us plebs don't have the privilage
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Also because Blink is the best and most advanced engine. The problem of Chromium is only that it need to gut out the Google APIs before it is a valid base for an browser. Vivaldi does it, also degoogled Chromium and even EDGE (but in change filling it with a ton of M$ tracking APIs). The only alternative (Linux only) is the Konqueror Browser with the Grandfather of Blink, KHTML by KDE.
Gnome web is also decent but not great for power users. It's based on Webkit.
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You give Mozilla all rights necessary to operate Firefox, including processing data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice, as well as acting on your behalf to help you navigate the internet. When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.
https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox
i can suggest ironfox, the fork of mull for android
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You give Mozilla all rights necessary to operate Firefox, including processing data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice, as well as acting on your behalf to help you navigate the internet. When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.
Why why why don't they just do like Wikipedia or the Internet Archive does and just come out and ask for donations instead of trying to sneak all this advertising shit into things?
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https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox
i can suggest ironfox, the fork of mull for android
Why don't they use the official fdroid repo?
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Yes, but even more important to avoid sync with an Mozilla account, if you need the sync function (maybe Filen?) (Vivaldi has an own sync EE2E)
Is File selfhostable & FOSS ?
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You give Mozilla all rights necessary to operate Firefox, including processing data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice, as well as acting on your behalf to help you navigate the internet. When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.
I wonder how they can expect to get more users like that. Their user are privacy conscious, this is the move to lose them.
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Is File selfhostable & FOSS ?
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Why why why don't they just do like Wikipedia or the Internet Archive does and just come out and ask for donations instead of trying to sneak all this advertising shit into things?
Vivaldi use default Bookmarks and search engines (Startpage, DDG, Ecosia, Qwant and some others), which pay an revenue if the user optional use these (anonym), apart accept donations and there is also an Merch Store. So it avoid third party investors, ads and tracking and so it stay independent, no needs to share user data with third parties. You can delete all these bookmarks and Search engines if you don't use these, using others to your like (easy to add with the context menu). All this permits to support the additional services which has the user with his account, own Webmail (5GB), Blog page, Calendar, Feed, mail client, sync ee2e of all browser data, settings, bookmarks, extensions...., apart permit to participate in the Vivaldi instance in Mastodon.
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I wasn't talking about putting stuff in, I was talking about removing it. You say it's open source, but google decides what contributions are added to the main repo. Even if you fork it, if it's not in upstream, it won't be used.
Jpegxl is a really cool image format that google hates for some reason. Every major company wanted chrome to support it, amazon, facebook, etc. but google said no, and guess what, no one can do anything about it. If you use blink you're a slave to google.
If you use Gecko too, because Google rules mainly the web standarts, not the engines. Yes, Google put the rules also in the Store, but not the inbuild features in the browser, in Vivaldi most of the extensions from the store are redundant. It has an own customizable ad/tracker blocker, tab, management, screenshot tool, translator hosted by Vivaldi, clock and pomodoro timer, UI customizations better than any extension...... you can use Chrome extensions, but you don't really need it. Apart permits to install user scripts (eg. from Greasyfork or OpenuserJS) direct as extensions, without the need of an user script manager, if you need functions which are banned from the Chrome Store.
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If you use Gecko too, because Google rules mainly the web standarts, not the engines. Yes, Google put the rules also in the Store, but not the inbuild features in the browser, in Vivaldi most of the extensions from the store are redundant. It has an own customizable ad/tracker blocker, tab, management, screenshot tool, translator hosted by Vivaldi, clock and pomodoro timer, UI customizations better than any extension...... you can use Chrome extensions, but you don't really need it. Apart permits to install user scripts (eg. from Greasyfork or OpenuserJS) direct as extensions, without the need of an user script manager, if you need functions which are banned from the Chrome Store.
The more people who use blink, the greater Google's control over the standards. Web standards are voted on and controlled by the W3C, a group google is a part of. Google doesn't have ultimate power over this group, but it does have the largest web browser. It can use this to chose what technology is used by consumers, and having a lot of people using a technology gives it a much better chance of being elevated.
When it comes to extensions, relying on adblocking from your browser completely removes the community aspects of ublock, you are giving all that power to a single entity. And using user scripts instead of well established, and vetted, extensions sounds like a security nightmare.
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You give Mozilla all rights necessary to operate Firefox, including processing data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice, as well as acting on your behalf to help you navigate the internet. When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.
i dont know on how many of my accounts back then on reddit were banned for pointing out the moz board is just trash. more than 10 i am sure.
again and again people dont want to hear they are wrong. still cant tell people THEY are the problem when using apple or google accounts, but those digital imbeciles tell me about the dangers of deepseek.thankfully in a globalised world natural selection is back on the map and not adapting to modern society puts you in place. so everyone can stick to their wrong beliefs and not vax, have accounts with google or even vote trump...be as dumb as you want...keep telling yourself mozilla is "the good guys"... iphones are secure and manufactured without slave labour. -
i dont know on how many of my accounts back then on reddit were banned for pointing out the moz board is just trash. more than 10 i am sure.
again and again people dont want to hear they are wrong. still cant tell people THEY are the problem when using apple or google accounts, but those digital imbeciles tell me about the dangers of deepseek.thankfully in a globalised world natural selection is back on the map and not adapting to modern society puts you in place. so everyone can stick to their wrong beliefs and not vax, have accounts with google or even vote trump...be as dumb as you want...keep telling yourself mozilla is "the good guys"... iphones are secure and manufactured without slave labour.Personally, i still belive in not giving Google market dominance but that's mainly because I want the web to thrive, and competition breeds innovation.
With that said, these ToS are making me leave FF, although I am going to Librefox and Fenec now
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I wonder how they can expect to get more users like that. Their user are privacy conscious, this is the move to lose them.
I am thinking about using tor browser on android. I don't see any other alternative.Check out Fenec
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i dont know on how many of my accounts back then on reddit were banned for pointing out the moz board is just trash. more than 10 i am sure.
again and again people dont want to hear they are wrong. still cant tell people THEY are the problem when using apple or google accounts, but those digital imbeciles tell me about the dangers of deepseek.thankfully in a globalised world natural selection is back on the map and not adapting to modern society puts you in place. so everyone can stick to their wrong beliefs and not vax, have accounts with google or even vote trump...be as dumb as you want...keep telling yourself mozilla is "the good guys"... iphones are secure and manufactured without slave labour.It's frustrating that the last bastion of hope against total Google dominance of the browser market has no sense of direction at all and is constantly tripping over rakes.
